Fishing sticks

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  1. Cdux

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    I think a got handle on rigging stick baits between those couple youtubes out there and playing around on slow days. But for actually soaking I have little knowledge & even less confidence. Guessing slightly head down and into current the boatside, then deploy like livey: a few fathoms of floro, sinker above swivel hung 100-150' under a balloon???

    Any point to jiggling them if you are marking but they won't commit?

    How about hand feeding them down w/o a sinker?
     
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    Fantastic bait. Deploy it without a sinker or balloon. Put a piece of 95/5 solder in the mouth so its bow heavy. Easy way to adjust the head weight using solder. Deploy it boat side and the head weight will send it down at an angle so it looks like its swimming down from the surface. The sticks will keep it upright as you know. I use the barbecue sticks. Yo-yo it up and down boat side. Very effective.
    Good way to get a bft to eat is to toss a few fresh cod livers over the side when they are not eating. The smell alone of the cod livers turns a bft on.
     
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    Thanks, no additional weight is interesting, but will give it a shot. Wish I knew that cod liver tip back you could gut them; but then again "they" say its 100% mortality upon release, so....
     
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    Been a while since I watched this one.

    With our resident expert too!!

     
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    OMG i forgot about that years ago. looks like i was using 300 # Floro back then. I don't even know where to find those vids. now.
     
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    Back in the Sportfishemen.com and Nore'east days.
     
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    Yeah i guess your right. I don't have time anymore to be on all the sites. :)
     
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    For your baits, are you using fresh bait that is dead or are you using frozen? If you are putting up your own bait to freeze are you hydro-gutting them and brining before you put them in the freezer ? My plan was to catch a bunch of bait when they are around early in the year and hydo-gut them then put them in a saltwater ice slush brine to cool them right down. Then pack them up in vacuum seal bags and freeze. Is there anything else I should be doing to them?

    Thanks

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    Speaking for myself, I like live bait. Fresh in my opinion is better than frozen. Having said that, sounds like you are doing everything right in preserving your baits and I would say nothing wrong with using frozen bait either.
     
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    Hey Old Mud, I never made the connection; have enjoyed your videos. Can I ask, where did you get that harpoon belt buckle from?
     
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    Ah thanks, I make those for special occasions. Tuna club raffle etc. Use to sell them for $60. but they are labor intensive taking about 4 hours each.
     
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    Can you post up some pictures? I have a few cracked ones and we could probably figure it out.

    Good little machine shop project for my students.
     
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    Well if you do up another batch or some kind of raffle here, count me in. Those are sharp.
     
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    I will definitely be using live bait when I can. I would just like to have some in reserve if they get difficult to come by. I'm sure that the previously frozen ones won't last as long as a fresh one on the hook.

    Thanks again ,

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    Thanks for making those videos. It's a lot easier to understand watching you do it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

    Rob
     
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    i'll try to take some pics. in a week or two.
     
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    I have to make a couple for a Bash on the 28th so if you want one i can do one at the same time.
     
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    Can you make it two?
     
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    Yes i can. I"ll start them next week. :)
     
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    One more question. Do you set your drag # at strike different when fishing stick bait vs live ones . My strategy with live bait is to keep it low, 12-15 pounds or so to start . When a fish takes it, slowly increase the drag until it's around 40 pounds then back it down to 30 or so for the fight. Using a non-offset circle hook hopefully that will pull it back thru the fish and set it in the corner of the jaw. I was curious if you do something similar, and do you run the same strike setup with stick bait as well as live ones?

    Thanks ,

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