Discussion in 'Downeast Engine Room' started by Bill, Sep 11, 2011.
Anyone have any experience or opinions on Ivecos?
I think they make a nice engine but boats being sold with that brand of power are simply harder to sell. Engines that due not have major OEM support can't get enough of thier product out there to support a viable dealer network. This means the tech's will not be properly trained and parts will not be properly stocked. Would I purchase a boat with an IVECO engine?......yes...if it was priced accordingly.
My brother in law has had a 350-400HP version on his JC 31, probably 4 years old. Its a charter boat and put away hard and wet. I've run it several times and been docked next to him for about three years. The engine runs even though some times its not perfect. This year he seems to be getting into replacing components like wire harness's, fuel lines and other things. He has had a real problem getting such parts, I know wire harness still wasn't available and fuel lines took him down for a week.
I will say be very wary of buying anything but standard. We bought a H&H 40 with a Mack E9, great engine in one sense, the E7 is SOLID. The E9 only 13 engines were marinized. I remember when we called and asked for a exhaust manifold and they said this is the last one... GULP. Not that Iveco is going anywhere but parts man, hard to get.
Are they even called Iveco anymore? I thought they are now FPT (Fiat Power Train) Diesel
Thanks for the responses.. And I appreciate that response about your experience Shawn.. That blows about that E9 wow .. That motor that I posted is in that 32 MDI for sale in Maine.. I have never seen one run and didn't want to buy something that people have had bad experience with
Kennedy Marine Power in Steuben Maine is a marine diesel dealer.
I believe the dealership has added Ivecos to its line up of diesel offerings.
If you follow the more recent DE builds up that way, Ivecos are showing up in the boats being built.
It is ALL about dealer support.
I know that down my way on the MA/NH border I'd be hard pressed to find a tech that has training with "marinized" IVECOs.
I'll stick with my Cummins. I have local support and really good support on "boatdiesel forum".
For what it's worth,
I believe Fiat owns them now
Have Iveco FTP N60 in my new to me Terry Jason. Had an issue with some water in fuel, rectified issue...upgraded filtration and had fuel and tanks dealt with. Have not been able to get boat out of “fail mode”. I have had zero luck in over a MONTH of trying to get a certified iveco guy to help with boat. Awful experience dealing with anybody related to this company.
i own a 7.5l iveco. its not a marine engine its in a forestry machine. i got it with 17000hrs on it. and it ran pretty good but not good enought to suit me. so i went through it top to bottom along with new injectors and a new pump. its a very nice motor that starts real well in the cold. parts are not hard to get but the part numbers can be. if you have the part number a new holland or case dealer can have the parts in 2 days. if its not marine related. a little history ...iveco fiat bought the ford farm tractor divison in 91. and they could use the ford name for 10 years. in the late 90's they also bought case ih. and somewhere about that time case got together with cummins to build a new motor. for a while it was called consolidated diesel. so if it was in a case machine it was a case motor in a dodge pickup it was a cummins.....i own 2 cummins along with 15 others is the iveco as good as a cummins...yes.....
they always have
Where are you located? Hugo Stamp is the big distributor of Ivecos, have you contacted them?
Boat is located in Greenwich, CT...it took me 4 weeks to get a phone number for a service rep from MSHS down in Florida. That service rep is yet to call me back
I think RI engine is an Iveco dealer
There has to be a FPT dealer in Maine you could contact, and they could point you in the right direction. Sorry to hear about the lack of support, that is really frustrating.
ohara in rockland. journeys end marine
FPT dealers in Maine are.
Yankee Marina, Yarmouth. Hugo Stamp, Rockland. OHara ,Rockland. Front Street Shipyard, Belfast. Hinkley, Southwest Harbor. Kennedy Marine Stuben and a couple more i forget. Theirs also one in Boston. And Salem,
The Iveco's have been in some hard working boats up here.
Fix It Again Tony = Fiat.
As far as parts and certified techs you'd really only have M S Hugo Stamp. The list of dealers can be long but most are really only yards and businesses that can sell and install the engines. They are not direct factory support that have trained techs, specialized tooling and parts departments that are open to 10 PM during the week and can overnight parts. Where I work we have everything from 36 series Cats to Issota Fraschini's. The Cat stuff is a lot easier to get.
I visited Hugo Stamp in Ft. Lauderdale right after the new FPT NEF 5.9 s hit the US shores. 2012-2013 maybe ?
BIG operation. I asked a lot of questions I mostly had the answers to ......couple of techs I spoke to about the FPT 5.9 design etc. were very knowledgeable and parts were available.
NEF 5.9 is shorter in height by 2-3 inches as I recall to the Cummins 5.9
I considered having a high sheer 29 H&H built.....with some magic I figured I could fit an NEF under the helm deck.
Didn't matter in the end. I rehabbed/repowered the 25 T Jason and stuck with the 6BTA 5.9 370. No way to fit ANY petroleum powered engine under the deck of a 25 T Jason.
Journey’s end in Rockland Maine, and Kennedy’s up in Steuben (I think...down east Maine somewhere) has great certified techs
There are more, those are just the ones that come to mind. MSHS hosts training for there dealers so there are service techs at the dealers.