18' pointer skiff

xp800

Lieutenant
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Posts
38
Likes
7
Location
Marblehead
Hello i posted a few times that i was looking to buy 18' boat. Well i found one and brought it home. What i bought was a 79 Pointer made in Yarmouth Maine with a 2007 Yamaha 60hp four stroke. The floors have some soft spots so i decided to pull the console and remove a piece of the floor. So the foam is full of water and there seems to be no stringers in this hull. Should i remove all the wet foam and re foam with a new plywood deck?? What are some options maybe add some stringers?

Dean

DSCN0038.jpg

DSCN0037.jpg

DSCN0042.jpg

DSCN0043.jpg
 

Stinkpot

Commander
Joined
Dec 2, 2011
Posts
256
Likes
147
Location
Cape Cod Canal
Boat Make
36' Calvin Beal
Nice looking boat! Love the Pointers. If it was me, I'd definitely rip up the floor, pull out all that old, wet foam, clean up and repaint the bilge, and lay down a new floor. What is the existing floor supported by? You could 'glass in a pair of stringers, but she survived this long without them, sooooo. For the floor, some okoume or miranti plywood (5/8" or 3/4") 'glassed over would serve you well. And, you could stick some 2" closed cell foam insulation board to the bottom of the new floor using polyurethane insulation adhesive. Good luck and keep us posted!
 

xp800

Lieutenant
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Posts
38
Likes
7
Location
Marblehead
Thanks for the kind words. The floor seems to be supported by the foam from what i can tell ???
 

RKrough

Commander
Joined
Oct 23, 2011
Posts
310
Likes
119
Location
Wilmington NC
Boat Make
Midland 19
Good looking boat. I had looked at one back in the summer and was doing some online research, there was a good thread about the west pointer and the variations at Stripersonline

I just found it in my bookmarks

West Pointer skiff
post #45 has pics of the brochure
 

Eastporter

Vice Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
3,887
Likes
1,354
Location
MA
Boat Make
Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign
Your Pointer is very similar to my 20' Eastporter. Check out my rebuild thread under "1976/2011 Eastporter Rebuild" for details on new stringers, transom, sole etc. Good luck and don't be shy to ask questions.
 

xp800

Lieutenant
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Posts
38
Likes
7
Location
Marblehead
RK thanks for the link on SOL. Eastporter i have read thru your build a few times..This is my first saltwater boat and i plan on chasing stripers and blues around salem sound. Question the floor seems to be supported by the closed cell foam that is water logged. There are no stringers supporting the floor.When i remove the wet foam what do i support the new floor with? Should i add a bilge drain plug to keep things dry?
 

2brits

Ensign
Joined
Nov 30, 2011
Posts
12
Likes
3
Location
East Moriches, NY
Great looking project, I am currently restoring an 18 pointer myself. I was wondering what was below decks- my floor is solid, has a few dips in it, I assume where the buts of the ply sheets meet. I built a console and glassed it directly to the floor which someone coated with epoxy at some point in the hulls past. She seems happy so I am not going to look for trouble. If it were me, I would rebuild as she was intended and seal the deck with foam below, no access hatches or penetrations of any sort. Good luck with the restoration- they are pretty.
 

Eastporter

Vice Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
3,887
Likes
1,354
Location
MA
Boat Make
Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign
A boat with no stringers seems peculiar. What longitudinal supports are there? If the Pointer was mine I'd cut the entire sole out, remove the old foam, put in three new stringers, and add closed cell foam (sheets) just like I did on mine. You can use DRY pressure treated wood with epoxy products. A lot of these boats have the scuppers too low- you might want to increase the stringer size and by doing so increase the sole height (3/4" ply is stiff and rugged for sole). Drill 2" scupper holes after installing new sole. Good luck and keep the photos coming. :D
 
Last edited:

Eastporter

Vice Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
3,887
Likes
1,354
Location
MA
Boat Make
Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign
How's the transom? I see a previous owner patched the top with fiberglass. Now's the time to replace it if you're going to replace the sole and add stringers.
 

xp800

Lieutenant
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Posts
38
Likes
7
Location
Marblehead
Guys thanks for all the help so far. The transom seems solid so far but i need to dig out all the foam to get a good look. My plan is to continue cutting out the deck and remove the foam. Then i can decide if i will put new foam in or go with some stringers. This type of work is new to me so I'm a little un sure about doing stringers myself. Again thanks for all the help so far.
 

jojobee

Commander
Joined
Sep 5, 2011
Posts
429
Likes
30
great classic hull. good luck. i think its tough to be the cost value of an epoxy marine ply repair.
 

tunaorlater

Admiral
Joined
Sep 9, 2011
Posts
4,489
Likes
2,594
Boat Make
40' Northern bay
Is the hull cored? That would give a boat like this enough strength to not need stringers. You may also get strength from a flange under the deck like on the 22 sisu. No stringers in this boat but it is also cored. You'll never know unless you cut or talk to someone who has already cut.

sisu3.jpg
 

GoodChance

Lieutenant Commander
Joined
Sep 18, 2011
Posts
176
Likes
23
Location
SW Florida
He's a 23 Pointer hull that was made in Yarmoth as well. Built around 1980. I rebuilt it in 2006. As you can see in one of the pictures, this boat has both transverse and longitunal stringers.

100_1179 (Small).JPG

100_0977.jpg

100_1122 (Small).JPG
 

xp800

Lieutenant
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Posts
38
Likes
7
Location
Marblehead
Goodchance great looking boat you did a beautiful job with the resto. I dug out some more foam today. There is no sign of any stringers just solid foam. The deck is sitting on top of the foam. Im working on the boat outside and after work so does not leave me much time to work. More wet foam man that shit stinks!
 

Eastporter

Vice Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
3,887
Likes
1,354
Location
MA
Boat Make
Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign
Beautiful restoration Goodchance! I like the keel. Please tell me about the performance with the keel. I'm thinking it may improve the handling of my boat with a larger forward/mid-ship keel tapering off towards the stern (like yours). I consulted a marine engineer and he thought it may cause cavitation issues for the outboard. Any issues with that on your boat? Thanks for the reply. Any more photos from the rebuild? I currently have about a 2" keel- is your keel from the original builder or a modification after?
 

Eastporter

Vice Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
3,887
Likes
1,354
Location
MA
Boat Make
Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign
Was the boat originally set up for inboard/outboard or is that added support for a bracket?
 

GoodChance

Lieutenant Commander
Joined
Sep 18, 2011
Posts
176
Likes
23
Location
SW Florida
I will post more tomorrow when I have more time. Originally the 23 Pointer was offered as either an I/O or an outboard. Per the builder, the same hull could have been outfitted with either power plant type without modification.

I bought the boat as an I/O from the previous owner and converted to a 115 Yamaha outboard. Performance with the I/O was rather poor ..... Engine was heavy; she sat stern heavy and was slow. The outboard was much better. Sat on her lines perfectly. At 4000rpm, she'd cruise at 19.5 to 20 kts. The motor/hull had no cavitation issues after I corrected as few some issues.
 
Last edited:

Eastporter

Vice Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
3,887
Likes
1,354
Location
MA
Boat Make
Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to more photos when you get time. :)
 

xp800

Lieutenant
Joined
Oct 6, 2011
Posts
38
Likes
7
Location
Marblehead
Ok so i made some progress i think. I dug out 16 trash bags of wet foam. Found a few broken stringers and wet also. So my plan is to remove the engine and cut out the transom. I drilled a few holes and found wet wood. I plan on replacing the stringers what type of wood should i use?

DSCN0049.jpg

DSCN0048.jpg

DSCN0046.jpg
 
Top Bottom