23 ft Crowley 150 Yamaha 650 lobster traps and many more extras.

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How does that differ from any other Downeast boat?
 

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I am not implying I agree with the price. I just know it might sell fast due to the design and rarity of this hull option. They are so rare, I never got to seatrial one, but I would wager that they ride better than any option in the 20-25' class that is out there, maybe a very close second would be a Sisu 22. I am a round chine DE/Novi fan though.
If I was in the market for a boat this size with outboard power, I would try for a 23 Crowley Beal as a first choice, but not overpay/hamstring myself over it. The second choice would be a Sisu 22. Third would be what I already have and take good care of: Novi, Cape Island Style. I ended up with what I have since I thought it was the best rig overall for the money I could find after exhaustive searching in 2009. It was built in 2005, after all. All the Sisu's around back then were tired old shitters compared to my boat. If there was a Crowley back then, it was mucho dinero and not in my reach at the time. They are still out of reach, for me.
For all I know, the difference between them overall could be minor.
I am not rushing to offload mine, that is for sure. It has taken GREAT care of me and my family for 11 full seasons!
 

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I am not implying I agree with the price. I just know it might sell fast due to the design and rarity of this hull option. They are so rare, I never got to seatrial one, but I would wager that they ride better than any option in the 20-25' class that is out there, maybe a very close second would be a Sisu 22. I am a round chine DE/Novi fan though.
If I was in the market for a boat this size with outboard power, I would try for a 23 Crowley Beal as a first choice, but not overpay/hamstring myself over it. The second choice would be a Sisu 22. Third would be what I already have and take good care of: Novi, Cape Island Style. I ended up with what I have since I thought it was the best rig overall for the money I could find after exhaustive searching in 2009. It was built in 2005, after all. All the Sisu's around back then were tired old shitters compared to my boat. If there was a Crowley back then, it was mucho dinero and not in my reach at the time. They are still out of reach, for me.
For all I know, the difference between them overall could be minor.
I am not rushing to offload mine, that is for sure. It has taken GREAT care of me and my family for 11 full seasons!
You can't go up to 25' in comparison...there are a number of 25's that are a better performing hull...in comparison...the GM22..at least in MHO...is a very comparable hull...and maybe even performs a little better...it has 6" more beam than the crowley 23, I believe
 

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Some guy is gonna buy this who fishes the bay/shoal waters of downeast Maine and make 150k a year with it lobstering. That’s who it’s worth 60k to.
That sounds like a pipe dream, and probably why it's for sale again this year.
 

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everything has peaked IMO. boats, homes, used cars. it's a function of low supply, high demand in an insane market. as we speak the stock market is tanking. regardless; these boats are awesome! I've been looking for one but at a certain point, for me sadly, it makes more sense to get a 27-29 h&h for not that much more money.
 
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So if you adjust for the motor value in my breakdown, a full price sale is like paying over $26k for the hull and hauler (no motor, trailer or traps.)

Still leaves me with the question, what makes that hull worth twice as much as a SISU, BHM or Webbers Cove of the same vintage and size? Is the hull twice as thick? Made from materials that are twice as good? Ride twice as nice? Or is it just a little bit better in those areas but because of scarcity people are paying a large premium for it just because they can affo

what hurts is I didn't jump on that one, because if I remember correctly it took a week or 2 to sell
 

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Not to derail this, but is this the tax benefit that you can claim the cost of the entire truck for the year, even though you are technically only making payments on it.
So say you buy a 60k truck, you can claim 60k towards your taxes but you are really only making monthly payments towards this total figure. Is that correct in laymans terms?
 

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Not to derail this, but is this the tax benefit that you can claim the cost of the entire truck for the year, even though you are technically only making payments on it.
So say you buy a 60k truck, you can claim 60k towards your taxes but you are really only making monthly payments towards this total figure. Is that correct in laymans terms?
You say "claim 60k toward you taxes". It would really be "apply a 60k expense to the balance sheet". This reduces the theoretical profits of the business which reduces that businesses tax liability.
There are better ways to use this money unless you really NEED a vehicle.
 

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Not to derail this, but is this the tax benefit that you can claim the cost of the entire truck for the year, even though you are technically only making payments on it.
So say you buy a 60k truck, you can claim 60k towards your taxes but you are really only making monthly payments towards this total figure. Is that correct in laymans terms?
You can do bonus depreciation on heavy duty trucks, so you can take a $18k loss there as well.
 

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You say "claim 60k toward you taxes". It would really be "apply a 60k expense to the balance sheet". This reduces the theoretical profits of the business which reduces that businesses tax liability.
There are better ways to use this money unless you really NEED a vehicle.
Ok, thats what I was trying to say, just not using the right terms, thanks.

Am I also correct in the idea that you apply the 60K expense, even though you don't technically spend the 60K on the vehicle during that year? Maybe a different area of the forum I could get these answers
 

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