32 Mitchell Cove vs 32 Osmond Beal H&H

[BillD]

OK, here I go again, looking for answers.
I've concluded that 32 ft is the longest DE hull I can can go.

I like the lines of both the 32 H&H and the 32 MC
I have or will arrange "rides"/"trips" on both these hulls next year.

Does anyone have any opinions on what can expect as far as differences or similarities in the following:

1. Speed? 20 knot cruise absolute minimum
2. Ride comfort in a head sea?
3. Handling in a following see?
4. Visibility @ cruise? "I'm a short guy at 5'8", gotta be able to see out over the bow without standing all day.
5. Stability on the drift.
6. Forward cabin room and height, "need a standup head".


Power in either would be the new Cummins QSB 6.7 425/480 hp. (rated 3300)

Thanks, Bill D

 

[tunaorlater]

One of the biggest benifits to a DE boat is you bulid it for you. So make the seat higher and add a step if your short.

All the rest I can not comment on but I think the MC is a better looking boat.

 

[Captlvb]

I would agree on the better looking boat is the MC. There is something about the 32 H&H that is out of proportion or something like that. Just doesn't look right. Their bigger hulls look great but always something that bugged me about the 32.

 

[Cichlidgeek]

I had my sights set on a well-used MC 32 last year, but it was too well used for me to handle. That all said, many people that I spoke to said the MC 32 was by far the best 32 ever built in Maine. They are a true 12 foot beam, all the way to the stern. The keel is semi open, in that it floods a little so as to provide more stability.

I am also pretty short, at a mere 5'9" and the one I looked at had a step up into the wheelhouse, which was nice. The hull is 'shallower' than an H&H though, so be prepared to have an engine box. On the other hand, the MC 32 does not need as much HP to go 20-25 knots, compared to the H&H hull anyway. Also, they are very seakindly in a following sea and quartering sea.

All in all, the 32 MC is a great boat and is the one that I am currently saving my Benjamen's for. Good luck whichever decision you choose.

PS--The 29 and 34 H&H are two of the best Osmond hulls produced, as is the 36 and 38. SteveinAK here has a nice 29 H&H and aside from the 3 feet less in length it's a beast of a hull. I would not rule that hull out and to be honest the 29 H&H is superior to their 32 from what others have told me. My only real experience is with the MC 32 though so perhaps I am a bit biased.

--Brian

 

[Keels Rock]

I would have to say the 32mc is the biggest in its class and a sharp lookin rig little more flare in the bow I would think making it drier as well. The new 30 Calvin looks sweet as well.

 

[Powderpro]

Bill- You should know by now, that a nice Calvin Beal designed boat like the MC 32' is going to be a tough boat to beat. I agree with the others, the MC 32' is a nice looking boat and is wider than the H&H by almost a foot. A 480 hp Cummins will turn that 32'er into a racer. You have my full support if you decide on the MC. Does your slip limit you to 32'? Because if it doesn't, the CB 34 would cost the same to build, and it's a bigger boat. I can't wait until you start your "new build" thread.

 

[BillD]

Brian, I can't my head around +32 and yes slip issues.

 

[MDI45]

I would agree on the better looking boat is the MC. There is something about the 32 H&H that is out of proportion or something like that. Just doesn't look right. Their bigger hulls look great but always something that bugged me about the 32.

Captlvb, i agree.....i think the house is raised to high to allow for flush deck....rampage88's boat looks good.....Bill my friend Vinny is selling a beautiful 32 MC...he loves the boat ...just wants a bigger one

 

[BillD]

MDI,
I agree, the 32 H&H that Rampage has looks very nicely proportioned.
It is WAY too early to be thinking about buying used or building new.

I'm taking the time next boating season (2012) to spend some time on ALL the hulls/sizes I've been asking about on this forum and noreast.com.

As I've said, my BF is a great boat with new power but not the easiest to pull lobster traps with.

Plus, when you've got the "itch" for different....well we all know where that leads to.

Thanks, Bill D

 

[VPC]

mc32

having had 3 de the mc32 is not a good boat but a great boat
following sea i can let go of the boat 1/4 sea runs great , head sea also good on the anchor great fast economical and fishes big

 

[BillD]

having had 3 de the mc32 is not a good boat but a great boat
following sea i can let go of the boat 1/4 sea runs great , head sea also good on the anchor great fast economical and fishes big

SOLD !!!!!!!

Thanks

 

[Cichlidgeek]

SOLD !!!!!!!

Thanks

Wise choice! I am right there with you!!

 

[VPC]

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[BillD]

Calvin vs Calvin ?????

Here's a question or two for the "old timers", "professors of DE boat history and design" or anyone who knows the answers.

Calvin Beal Jr. has designed a decent percentage of DE lobster boat hulls.
Many not bearing his name. For example Mitchell Cove.

OK, so a builder asks Calvin to design a hull such as a Mitchell Cove. The builder gives Calvin the length of each hull.

Calvin's has "on the shelf" hulls already done but in different lengths/widths etc.

So my question is.

What makes a Calvin Beal Jr. designed hull different from one another performance wise other than length and width???

Seems to me that if I as a hull designer has a hull or two that perform, I'd change the lengths/widths and do some tweaking to suit the requirements of the builder.

Also, are ANY of Calvin's designs radically different from one another?
Speed,pounding, good/bad in a following sea, etc.,etc.,etc...you know, performance attributes that make a real difference.

I get the sense from the responses on this forum and other forums that there is nothing negative about the 32 Mitchell Cove (a Calvin beal design) hull. Is this true of ALL other Calvin designs ????

Have I made any "sense" in my questions?

Thanks

Bill D

 

[Cichlidgeek]

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VPC,
Is that your MC 32 that's listed on SW Boatwork's website?

 

[RAMPAGE88]

Bill, Best of luck in your search for the boat to best suit your needs. I also looked at the MC32, as it is a beautiful boat no doubt & a much bigger 32' than the H&H if that's what your looking for. I tend to agree with MDI45's signature "never saw a downeastser I didn't like" & have to say as far as I see em, they're both very easy on the eye, although very different sheers & flares, both beautiful. It will boil down to which one really bowls you over & measures up to YOUR expectations. There is an ass for every seat & my ass fits pretty well in what I have. Perhaps my choice was a lot easier being that I was buying used on a budget of what one would pay for an F250 nowadays & I happened to come across one owned by a reputable builder. Here's a couple pics of the day I fell in love with mine. It was raining cold & blowin hard as we left hampton inlet into a tall headsea, brought her up to about 17kts through some snot & then left her beam to as she sat in that slop like she'd rather be there than anywhere else , I was sold at that moment. You have a great opportunity right now Bill, as there is a MC32 in NY & a 32 H&H in CT for sale......go check em out, I bet niether would dissapoint...Enjoy

 

[Raider Ronnie]

Bill, Best of luck in your search for the boat to best suit your needs. I also looked at the MC32, as it is a beautiful boat no doubt & a much bigger 32' than the H&H if that's what your looking for. I tend to agree with MDI45's signature "never saw a downeastser I didn't like" & have to say as far as my eye sees em, they're both very easy on the eye, although very different sheers & flares, both beautiful. It will boil down to which one really bowls you over & measures up to YOUR expectations. There is an ass for every seat & my ass fits pretty well in what I have. Perhaps my choice was a lot easier being that I was buying used on a budget of what one would pay for an F250 nowadays & I happened to come across one owned by a reputable builder. Here's a couple pics of the day I fell in love with mine. It was raining cold & blowin hard as we left hampton inlet into a tall headsea, brought her up to about 17kts through some snot & then left her beam to as she sat like a duck, I was sold at that moment. You have a great opportunity right now Bill, as there is a MC32 in NY & a 32 H&H in CT for sale......go check em out, I bet niether would dissapoint...Enjoy

Steve Law's old boat

 

[BillD]

Hampton River/Seabrook NH

Rick,
Seabrook/Hampton River,
that's where I started my "boating" 53 years ago (I'm 58) with my dad on 1/2 day deep sea fishing trips on Eastmans.

I am a LONG WAY from buying/building any DE boat.

Love the learning/shopping though !!!!!

I like the lines of the 32 H&H

 

[BillD]

Nice lines on the 32 H&H

 

[Capt. Lou]

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Anyone know this boat? I have seen it on Swboatworks site. Just would like to hear some opinions about it