32 mitchell Cove

[Surfishingboy]

What do you guys think of the 32 Mitchell cove? any information/ experiences/ info would be great.

 

[fvthunder]

In my opinion, they are the biggest, best looking 32 footers. The only negative thing about my mitchell cove is that it has a pretty wet ride even with spray rails, if it is blowing much. Goes 9 outta 10 days the 40 footers go and only burns a fraction of the fuel. Overall, a great boat for the 32 foot category.

 

[BillD]

In my opinion, they are the biggest, best looking 32 footers. The only negative thing about my mitchell cove is that it has a pretty wet ride even with spray rails, if it is blowing much. Goes 9 outta 10 days the 40 footers go and only burns a fraction of the fuel. Overall, a great boat for the 32 foot category.

"it has a pretty wet ride even with spray rails"

I too have an interest in the 32 MC.

Would you please explain your statement?

What is it about the hull design that causes a more wet ride than other specific hulls? Even WITH spray rails?

Appreciated,

Bill Desmarais

 

[Downeaster]

I think both the 32 and the 35 are some of Calvin's best designs. David Schlaefer commissioned these and claims that he specified more beam and higher forward shear than Calvin wanted. I really don't believe that the MCs are wetter or drier that other downeasters. Spray rails are effective in a limited range of sea states. Relative wind/sea direction are issues, sea size and frequency are issues as are speed and trim. Once installed, spray rails are what they are and about the best that you can hope for is that they are as effective as possible throughout a useful range of variables mentioned. Effective spray rail placement, in my opinion, involves art, science and juju.

 

[fvthunder]

"it has a pretty wet ride even with spray rails"

I too have an interest in the 32 MC.

Would you please explain your statement?

What is it about the hull design that causes a more wet ride than other specific hulls? Even WITH spray rails?

Appreciated,

Bill Desmarais

Before I bought the 32 mitchell, I had a 31 BHM. With the BHM it had to be blowing pretty good before spray would come thru the opening window or over the wheelhouse. With the mitchell cove....with just a little wind or chop, spray is coming thru the window and my sternman has to wear full grundens gear. Other than that, I love everything about the boat and would highly recommend.

 

[tunaorlater]

Spray rails are good for nice days keeping spray off the windshield. Once the wind starts blowing these boats are not fast enough to keep the spray behind the boat so it ends up on the boat. So almost every DE boat is wet.

 

[Overkill]

Had a 32 MC for about 8 years with a 63p volvo 370 hp.
(30+ mph on radar gun) They are quite stable but do tend
to slap their stern quarter when side- to in a short chop.
They are wet at slow speed or quartering into it.

 

[BillD]

Before I bought the 32 mitchell, I had a 31 BHM. With the BHM it had to be blowing pretty good before spray would come thru the opening window or over the wheelhouse. With the mitchell cove....with just a little wind or chop, spray is coming thru the window and my sternman has to wear full grundens gear. Other than that, I love everything about the boat and would highly recommend.

Spray rails are good for nice days keeping spray off the windshield. Once the wind starts blowing these boats are not fast enough to keep the spray behind the boat so it ends up on the boat. So almost every DE boat is wet.

It's hard to get a picture in my mind of "how wet these boats are" and in "what sea conditions and winds".

A few 1/2 day/ all day charters on different hulls will be necessary for anyone to help prevent buying or building a DE that does not meet his or her expectations.

Thanks for all the input!!

Do any of the 32 MC owners have some pics of their boats or maybe a video while under way??

Bill D

 

[petrel]

It's not wet inside the "Life Support Bubble" (wheelhouse) unless of course your windows leak. My DMR and my BHM are both wet if it's choppy. Doesn't mean I get wet. I put a big enough cabin on my BHM that several people can stay dry in transit. Something to consider if you don't need to haul around traps or a net reel. I still have a huge cockpit b/c the house is so far forward, but three bunks and a head below- 31' boat.

 

[traditions]

Bill,I looked for some pictures last night,but have 40 or so discs with very little description of whats where.I look some more,I have before and after spray rails.I used pictures on placment of the rails and have video of them working,but I dont know how to post videos on this site.

 

[MDI45]

It's not wet inside the "Life Support Bubble" (wheelhouse) unless of course your windows leak. My DMR and my BHM are both wet if it's choppy. Doesn't mean I get wet. I put a big enough cabin on my BHM that several people can stay dry in transit. Something to consider if you don't need to haul around traps or a net reel. I still have a huge cockpit b/c the house is so far forward, but three bunks and a head below- 31' boat.

Petrel ,your statement about the wheel house is so true...my boat is 45'' and with a stiff north west wind my west coast windshield is getting blasted but everyone gets a seat and who cares how much water goes over the wheelhouse

 

[BillD]

Bill,I looked for some pictures last night,but have 40 or so discs with very little description of whats where.I look some more,I have before and after spray rails.I used pictures on placment of the rails and have video of them working,but I dont know how to post videos on this site.

Appreciated,

Bill D

 

[BillD]

NOW you guys have me nervous!!!!!!

Check out these pics of my Blackfin running.

It's easy enough to see the deflection of water away from the boat.

Can the different 32 DEs discussed be any "wetter" than my boat?

"For the most part", to me, the 31 Blackfin Combi is a "dry boat".

Of course in a decent wind and sea we'll take some spray through the roll up smile windows.

We are not commercial fishermen and for the most part we pick out days on the water.

Will a DE hull with spray rails deflect water as the BF does?


Bill D

 

[andy65]

I'd call that pretty calm water for a downeaster. Spray won't be an issue for that.

 

[Powderpro]

I'd call that pretty calm water for a downeaster. Spray won't be an issue for that.

I have to agree, that is some calm water. Any DE with some spray rails will have a dry windshield in that kind of weather. Bill, you know the Mitchell Cove 32' is calling your name, or Stewart's new 30' Calvin Beal. With a Cummins 6.7 liter 425 hp or 480 hp in one of those 2 boats, you will be going so fast you will just skip from wave to wave flying along at 35 mph. At that speed you will outrun the spray .

 

[BillD]

I have to agree, that is some calm water. Any DE with some spray rails will have a dry windshield in that kind of weather. Bill, you know the Mitchell Cove 32' is calling your name, or Stewart's new 30' Calvin Beal. With a Cummins 6.7 liter 425 hp or 480 hp in one of those 2 boats, you will be going so fast you will just skip from wave to wave flying along at 35 mph. At that speed you will outrun the spray .

"Now you are making fun of me" !!! LOL

 

[traditions]

Bill,heres some pictures before spray rails,you may have seen these already.I think it was a good breeze SE this day.I wouldnt let these deter considering a 32MC,they are great boats and these are not what you would be doing with one.

 

[F/V First Team]

Wish I had photos of me running hard in less than favorable conditions so I can show you all what I'm talking about in regards to rail placement. No one ever wants to play with me out there :cry:

In conditions like that, while true the bow does dip below the waves every now and then and I will concede that at times there is a wall of green water up over the bow and overhead, the majority of said liquid refreshment is jettisoned to the sides and the bow is lifted up as a result of that force ready to take on the next wave.

But while outrunning a hurricane pushing up the coast right hard on the starboard quarter in 7 foot seas with a 20' period between them there are times of wallowing before the bow lifts again, also: severe deceleration (normally 1-2 mph but at one time 5! that is why we lash the couch down when we travel, as it was it blew the companionway hatch open and ruined someones nap)

Only other boat I saw in the four hour trip from Portland to Searsport was an 80+' sailboat slowly motoring down the coast seeking refuge in Boothbay, maybe they got some photos.

We can go back to a non-derailed thread. Just saw those photos and had to type a little bit.

 

[unclefish]

most boats I have been on would be wet with that sea. wild shots those are definant wall hangers.
todays forcast
looks like light north wind 10knots or less with waves 1 ft or less sunny all day visabilty 20 miles. that would be our weathermans forecast

 

[BillD]

Bill,heres some pictures before spray rails,you may have seen these already.I think it was a good breeze SE this day.I wouldnt let these deter considering a 32MC,they are great boats and these are not what you would be doing with one.

Thanks for the pics.
You are correct.
We would not be out in that stuff unless "caught" in it!

This pic resembles the conditions we mostly boat in !!! LOL.

32 MC too.