38' Wesmac: hull #34

[Powderpro]

It's official, Wesmac is just starting work on laying up my 38' hull. It's hull #34, solid glass, white color. I'll be picking it up mid-August. Here is some pictures of the new 9 liter John Deere engine that will be going in it. 500hp at 2,400 rpms, ZF 305A 2:1 transmission. Spinning a 28" diameter prop, probably start out with 29" or 30" of pitch. Hoping for 25 knots top speed. I'm building it simple and light. Walkaround pilothouse, aluminum pipe bridge, 100% composite construction, no wood.

 

[BillD]

Brian,

"Building it light"???
Since when??? LOL

Also, that JD sure has a BIG footprint!!!

Good lookin motor.

Bill D

 

[winterking]

Congrats Brian! Thats gonna be the envy of cook inlet.
You'll haul just a bare hull to B Ham? curious about how much it will weigh? I'm still contemplating hauling the BHM myself, probably should just keep on working and let someone else do it. I'll be in Kenai the middle of July so I'll look you up when I'm there. Can't wait to see the build!

 

[lobstercatcher]

Brian, You're going to love doing woodless.

 

[Powderpro]

Bill- I'm hoping to knock off about 700-850 lbs by going with the honeycomb vs plywood. The Deere is fairly long at 70" from front of engine to transmission coupling. It puts out 1,385 ft/lbs of torque, so that should spin the prop nicely.

Winterking- It should be a sweet CI boat. A downeaster with a walkaround pilothouse and pipe bridge is definitely going to turn some heads. Can't wait to hear that wet exhaust! I'm pulling the boat to Missouri to build and do all the structure/fiberglassing, and then will transport it to Bham to put on the finishing touches (hydros, deck gear, aluminum railing, etc). Probably be in Bham for 3 weeks before we dump it in the water and run it up to Kenai in mid-June. I'm planning on running up with another guy who will have a brand new aluminum bowpicker (34'x12') with twin Volvo D-4's with duo-props (225hp each). The bowpicker will probably top out at 33-35 knots. My guess is the Wesmac will weigh about 18,000-19,000 lbs ready to fish (gear, nets, fuel). Hoping it's about 14,000 lbs or less when I transport it out to Bham. If you want my opinion, unless you have a real nice diesel dually with a real nice 5th wheel boat trailer, I would hire a pro to move your boat the 3,000 miles. Look me up in Kenai, email me if you don't have my cell #.

 

[Powderpro]

For those who may be interested, here are some pics of the 37 Wegley I just finished. It turned out sweet. 420hp 6.7 Iveco, 2.5:1 reduction, 28"x28" 4 blade prop, topped out at 25.2 knots at 97% engine load! That's an honest speed number, no wind and no current padding the numbers, and I had 260 gallons of fuel and 4 guys that averaged 250 lbs on board (I was the small guy at 200 lbs). I took an inch of pitch out to settle at 28"x27"; that will give me room to add some fish to the boat and not overload the engine. Expecting about 24 knots with the new prop, which is awesome performance considering the engine will probably be at 92-94% load wide open.

 

[tunaorlater]

Looking forward to this one Brian!

 

[Eslang]

Good luck! Sweet looking motor!

 

[steveinak]

Brian what can i say except just beautiful but i had a hunch it would be after my visit in b'ham this spring. Good luck and good fishing to you guys. Its looking like it might be a good year if the way they have been catching reds on the flats keeps up, 250,000 reds on the last 12 hour period, they are getting 36 hours on monday.
That Wesmac is going to be a beauty and i'm betting you'll have it sold by the end of next season these guys up here are gonna crap their pants when they see what that boat will do.
If you get any time in anchorage give me a call or email and we can hit Mooses Tooth for a pizza.
Steve

 

[winterking]

The Wegley Looks great! I keep coming to the same conclusion as you about hauling my boat, for a one time deal it's really not worth buying the trailer. Hope you have a great season I'll look you up when I'm there maybe try to get in on that Moose's tooth Pizza with Steve

Tom

Winterking- It should be a sweet CI boat. A downeaster with a walkaround pilothouse and pipe bridge is definitely going to turn some heads. Can't wait to hear that wet exhaust! I'm pulling the boat to Missouri to build and do all the structure/fiberglassing, and then will transport it to Bham to put on the finishing touches (hydros, deck gear, aluminum railing, etc). Probably be in Bham for 3 weeks before we dump it in the water and run it up to Kenai in mid-June. I'm planning on running up with another guy who will have a brand new aluminum bowpicker (34'x12') with twin Volvo D-4's with duo-props (225hp each). The bowpicker will probably top out at 33-35 knots. My guess is the Wesmac will weigh about 18,000-19,000 lbs ready to fish (gear, nets, fuel). Hoping it's about 14,000 lbs or less when I transport it out to Bham. If you want my opinion, unless you have a real nice diesel dually with a real nice 5th wheel boat trailer, I would hire a pro to move your boat the 3,000 miles. Look me up in Kenai, email me if you don't have my cell #.[/QUOTE]

 

[Powderpro]

Guys, thanks for the nice compliments- Steve, the Mooses Tooth sounds like an interesting place to get a pizza. I'll give you a call and see if our schedules can work out.

Tom- Here are a few pics of my new trailer. 5th wheel, 3- 7,000lb torsion axles, 10-ply tires, brakes on all axles, frame is 4"x8" .250" wall steel tubing with I-beam cross members. This trailer would haul a tank and is built plenty stout enough to haul the Wesmac. This week I will be fabricating and installing the vertical uprights that support the hull. The keel of the boat will sit right down on the I-beam cross members. I had a local trailer builder build the trailer, and I will outfit it to haul a boat. What's nice is the hull never leaves the trailer until it is put in the water. We have always built our new boats on trailers and do our own hauling. Now if someone offers me a crazy price on this 38 Wesmac, forcing me to build a 42 Wesmac, then I will have to hire a pro to make that move for me. My dually won't handle a finished 42'.

 

[steveinak]

Tom it was a given that you are invited for the Mooses Tooth first annual ADEBO Alaskan Downeast Boat Owners meeting We even might put together a kenai rainbow fishing trip??

The Wegley Looks great! I keep coming to the same conclusion as you about hauling my boat, for a one time deal it's really not worth buying the trailer. Hope you have a great season I'll look you up when I'm there maybe try to get in on that Moose's tooth Pizza with Steve

Tom

Winterking- It should be a sweet CI boat. A downeaster with a walkaround pilothouse and pipe bridge is definitely going to turn some heads. Can't wait to hear that wet exhaust! I'm pulling the boat to Missouri to build and do all the structure/fiberglassing, and then will transport it to Bham to put on the finishing touches (hydros, deck gear, aluminum railing, etc). Probably be in Bham for 3 weeks before we dump it in the water and run it up to Kenai in mid-June. I'm planning on running up with another guy who will have a brand new aluminum bowpicker (34'x12') with twin Volvo D-4's with duo-props (225hp each). The bowpicker will probably top out at 33-35 knots. My guess is the Wesmac will weigh about 18,000-19,000 lbs ready to fish (gear, nets, fuel). Hoping it's about 14,000 lbs or less when I transport it out to Bham. If you want my opinion, unless you have a real nice diesel dually with a real nice 5th wheel boat trailer, I would hire a pro to move your boat the 3,000 miles. Look me up in Kenai, email me if you don't have my cell #.

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[MDI45]

powderpro,the boat will not be level sitting on it's keel on the trailer??do you block the bow higher

 

[Powderpro]

powderpro,the boat will not be level sitting on it's keel on the trailer??do you block the bow higher

We take the tires off the back 2 axles (so the trailer rotates on the front axle), level the hull, and block the trailer up solid; so yes it does require raising the front of the trailer to get the hull level.

 

[MDI45]

We take the tires off the back 2 axles (so the trailer rotates on the front axle), level the hull, and block the trailer up solid; so yes it does require raising the front of the trailer to get the hull level.

Very nice!!i wish i had a trailer like that..or maybe a little bigger lol...i used to by boats for the price these boat haulers get to move a downeaster

 

[winterking]

Guys, thanks for the nice compliments- Steve, the Mooses Tooth sounds like an interesting place to get a pizza. I'll give you a call and see if our schedules can work out.

Tom- Here are a few pics of my new trailer. 5th wheel, 3- 7,000lb torsion axles, 10-ply tires, brakes on all axles, frame is 4"x8" .250" wall steel tubing with I-beam cross members. This trailer would haul a tank and is built plenty stout enough to haul the Wesmac. This week I will be fabricating and installing the vertical uprights that support the hull. The keel of the boat will sit right down on the I-beam cross members. I had a local trailer builder build the trailer, and I will outfit it to haul a boat. What's nice is the hull never leaves the trailer until it is put in the water. We have always built our new boats on trailers and do our own hauling. Now if someone offers me a crazy price on this 38 Wesmac, forcing me to build a 42 Wesmac, then I will have to hire a pro to make that move for me. My dually won't handle a finished 42'.

Tom it was a given that you are invited for the Mooses Tooth first annual ADEBO Alaskan Downeast Boat Owners meeting We even might put together a kenai rainbow fishing trip??



Thanks for the pics Brian, whats the floor length? Looks like someone builds a decent trailer. I got a quote on one with tri axel 8k, disc's on all six wheels from Broward trailer in florida they were close to 20k for it, really nice trailer but getting a little pricey for me. I'm not even sure what my BHM weighs (If anyone has an idea would love to hear it)

Steve I think your on to something! I've been to lots of meetings but an ADEBO meeting will be the first for me! And Big Bad Bows in the Kenai sounds like fun!

 

[Powderpro]

The bed/floor length is 35'. The company that built this trailer builds small utility trailers all the way up to bigger heavy equipment trailers. They do real good work and their welds are real nice, but if you call them up wanting a boat trailer, they will tell you that you must have the wrong number. This is the 3rd "boat trailer" that I have ordered from them. This isn't a fancy saltwater boat trailer, but the cost is considerably less.

I would guess your boat is probably 15k - 18k pounds? Travis may be able to give a close estimate on its weight.

 

[BillD]

The bed/floor length is 35'. The company that built this trailer builds small utility trailers all the way up to bigger heavy equipment trailers. They do real good work and their welds are real nice, but if you call them up wanting a boat trailer, they will tell you that you must have the wrong number. This is the 3rd "boat trailer" that I have ordered from them. This isn't a fancy saltwater boat trailer, but the cost is considerably less.

I would guess your boat is probably 15k - 18k pounds? Travis may be able to give a close estimate on its weight.

Figure 20,000 lbs boat/trailer.

What would you use to haul it cross country ??

Even the mighty 6.7 Cummins in a 1 ton Dodge dually would have trouble hauling the weight !! LOL

 

[Powderpro]

I've done some quick figuring, I can't imagine my 38 Wesmac weighing over 12,000 lbs when I pull it from MO to WA. Here is the breakdown of the weights, and most of these weights are over-estimates.

Hull & stringers 5,500 lbs. Engine, exhaust & running gear 3,000 lbs. Structure: 40 sheets at 33 lbs each 1,320 lbs. Misc glass, gelcoat, paint 700 lbs. Windows 300 lbs. Fuel tank 300 lbs. Door 60 lbs. Misc interior and electrical items: 200 lbs. Misc items I’m not thinking of 500 lbs. This is not a finished, turn-key boat, but structurally finished and water tight. Total weight: 11,880 lbs.
Add in the weight of the trailer at approx. 4,500 lbs, and I have a grand total of 16,380 lbs. The old 6.7 Cummins HO Dodge dually will pull that load.

 

[BillD]

I've done some quick figuring, I can't imagine my 38 Wesmac weighing over 12,000 lbs when I pull it from MO to WA. Here is the breakdown of the weights, and most of these weights are over-estimates.

Hull & stringers 5,500 lbs. Engine, exhaust & running gear 3,000 lbs. Structure: 40 sheets at 33 lbs each 1,320 lbs. Misc glass, gelcoat, paint 700 lbs. Windows 300 lbs. Fuel tank 300 lbs. Door 60 lbs. Misc interior and electrical items: 200 lbs. Misc items I’m not thinking of 500 lbs. This is not a finished, turn-key boat, but structurally finished and water tight. Total weight: 11,880 lbs.
Add in the weight of the trailer at approx. 4,500 lbs, and I have a grand total of 16,380 lbs. The old 6.7 Cummins HO Dodge dually will pull that load.

Brian,

You are very detailed on the data.

btw,

I'm pretty sure the 1 ton Cummins 6.7 Dodge dually has a v-drive transmission.

You should ge OK with the haul cross country.