42' H&H Osmond Beal On YW

RyanA

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I've had my eye on this and wanted to get some neutral opinions.

42' H&H Osmond Beal on YW

I'm on a 30 footer that is just a bit too small. I also have a "fishing crash pad" that I keep for crashing when we are fishing. I keep looking at the money I'm throwing away on rent for the crash pad, and am looking for a flybridge boat big enough to crash on so we can skip renting the condo and roll the money into the boat instead. Should be able to make a big step up in boat size if we can do without the fishing crash pad condo.
 

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Anyone chime in here? It's rare posts go by with zero comments for 2 weeks! =)) Do you think there be a "profound" difference with the flybridge and the soft top as compared to the same boat without a flybridge? I'm sure it's a ride compromise, just not honnestly sure how much.
 

tomy

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Beal Boats are the nuts.....when lookin I did not want a flying bridge. Am not against it if you have lower stearing station which i did not see in pics,,nor a cockpit stearing station which is almost mantatory today:geek:

Plus what are you gonna do with it? charter? where?
 

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A nice boat for sure but not something I would fish out of, I would be afraid to get something dirty or worse damage it. If your considering spending 300k why not look at building your own then you could have exactly what you want/need and nothing more. You also said that the 30' was a"tad" small. This is considerably larger than a 30', have you been on this boat and seen how much bigger? Also, having a boat that you fish and use regularly is one thing,its always ready to go fishing! Taking that same boat and using it as a live aboard will most likely make it much more difficult to use as a fishing/charter boat. A beautiful boat though, careful with the blood on the persian rug:rolleyes:
 

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Definatly a sweet boat, I do doubt the speed #'s though. There's a few guys on here the own or owned 40's you might ask them what there #'s were.
 

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I had been considering same boat for same purpose.

Decided that for me it wasn't the right boat to live on with my family. And it's too big and too inefficient for me to fish on every day (I don't see cruise numbers, but I have a friend who has one with same power and no flybridge. I'd think this is 17-18 knot cruise at 25-26 gph?).

And it's too nice to charter...

Pretty boat though. Don't know how it performs with flybridge and that fugly hardtop on the drift. I wish I could afford to have it AND a condo for the family.
 

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Great boat for full time tuna, although not the most efficient hull. I would consider an sportish style boat is your looking for condo replacement. They are really set up dockside liveaboard with more space and the MPG would be similiar. I love Downeast boats but used a used one set up for tuna don't make the best live aboard. If you must have a downeast I'd look for a boat set up for cruising and rig it for fishing....some of the duffy 42s on the market are promising.
 

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Pull the turbo and look at it before you buy.If there is signs of salt water intrusion then the motor may be suspect. I can not be certain from sales pictures but wet exhaust looks flat.(no significant rise or hight before shower??
 

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RyanA,There is another 42 forsale on here called Big Blue....More of a fishing boat......Like tuna said...numbers might not be correct....big blue cruises 17 with same power
 

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Thank you all for chiming in. I love this forum, and the good people who are here. Wish I had found it a long time ago.

Here are my thoughts, I'm just going to brain dump my thoughts.

Mission 1: Fish the Fall, double or triple the amount of days.
I'm not going to use the boat for commercial fishing, or charter fishing, even though we do try to fish at least 40 days a season. We fish more than almost any other Rec boat I know of, and we love to fish the fall the most...where we get our @$$ kicked on my current 30' sport boat. Anything gusting to 20 or more and it’s pretty miserable. That's mission 1: Fish the fall, and don't worry about gusts to 20 or even 30. This is why I’m pretty stuck on a DE boat. Fished a good friend of mine’s 36 BHM in 10-11 footers in the Shark tournament years back…that was my first adult experience on a real DE boat…and my jaw was on the floor with how comfortable, and how safe it was even in those conditions.

Mission 2: Similar Maintenance & Running Expenses
I currently maintain 2 Yanmar 6lp engines (315hp), and get about 1 mpg at 21-22knt cruise. Most days in the fall, I can’t make 22kts, (more like 17-18kts and .8mpg) so it’s kind of a moot point to have all that HP when the ocean conditions and the hull won’t let you use it! I’d be crazy happy with a 19-20knt cruise around 1 mpg. If I bought more of a “sport boat” I’d get the condo replacement that I’m looking for more easily, but I’d still have to maintain 2 engines, and the fuel burn with increase dramatically than what I currently burn. My boat doesn’t sit at the dock, so operational and maintenance expenses are a very serious consideration. This is why I’m pretty stuck on a DE boat as a 42’er has the same maintenance and running costs as my 30’, with half the motors to maintain, and a pretty close fuel burn at 19kts. Sure you lose some speed, but I’m not in a hurry, and my wallet isn’t either. 19-20kts, and I’m good. (.7 to .9 mpg at cruise)


Mission 3: Real Canyon’s or Georges Range
I could bring fuel and get my boat to the canyons on a nice set of days, but I couldn’t help but feel that’s just too far on my present boat. I’ve been out to the canyons on dozens of other boats and I’d feel like I was tricking my boat into doing it. This is why I’m pretty stuck on a DE boat.

Mission 4: Do One Well (Small Condo + Small Boat)
There is enough money to do two poorly, or one well. Pretty simple. I don’t have kids yet, the girl hates going fishing, and the only people who ever stay at the cape house are my friends going fishing with me in the morning. I don’t think a boat at 42’ will straight replace the condo, but if it gets close, then I’d pull the trigger. As it stands now, the 30’ isn’t even close to replacing the house, so I’m not even going to try.

I haven’t looked at building one new…I just summarily assumed that if the boat I want is at my budget when it’s 8 years old, then I couldn’t built it new.

IDEALLY: I’d want a full size bed forward, with a tight set of mates bunks to port with a door, a full sized head/shower all on 42’. Which would mean that it would steal space from the “normal” kitchen found on a 42’. This configuration is commonplace on a 45 sportie, but much more rare on a 42. I think that would be my “ideal boat.” Finding it used and affordable is the challenge we all face.
 

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Not having a family makes things much easier. :)

Realistically I think you're looking about .65-.75 mpg at cruise (16-18 kt)

If that's acceptable, you could always do cots, inflatables for the guys.
 
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Your position

I was in a very similar position a few years ago. I wanted to get a bigger boat that I could live on with my family. After talking it over with a good friend he talked me out of it. I ended up buying a condo, keeping my current boat and it was a better move. I sold the condo recently and am upgrading to a house. Reason for this was the real estate held its value unlike a boat cannot (some can but for the most part they are not a good investment)
I will get a bigger boat eventually but in considering my long range plans the real estate worked out better. Selling a boat these days is not that easy.
The 42' Big Blue mentioned is a boat that I considered. It is a very nice but BIG boat but more for fishing than for living on and fishing. The flybride boat will give you more confort but I would go for a upper and lower station. The flybride you posted is very nice.
 

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Was down in Va Beach last week and took a look at the 1st boat shown just for the hell of it. Rediculously clean boat with a yacht quality finish. Hardly used ~ 1000 hrs and 300 on the genset and the owner I guess was extremely anal. The engine room was spotless. Down side not set up to tuna fish more set up for Bluewater trolling, no livewell, large deck storage but not insulated or closed off for fish hold. Don't like fly bridges and its just too nice for what I do. I think for the right person would make a great boat. Hell of a lot of boat for the money.
 

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She is coming home to NE where she belongs!! Survey went well with some minor stuff but that is to be expected. Really looking forward to the space. Don't think I will need to tell the wife I need a bigger boat anytime soon!! Thanks for all the posts. They were helpful as I was doing my search. We will see if the bridge stays or goes in the next year or so. One thing at a time!!
 
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