5.9 QSB Cost

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Anyone know the approximate cost of a 5.9 QSB with a gear run. Engine prices seem to be top secreat:eek:
 

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I don't think that engine is available any longer unless you can find someone that still has one.I do know that the new 6.7 is around 45K with a gear. It is nearly the same profile and weight as the 5.9, and like the 5.9 its not sleaved but does have a higher maximum rpm. Having just bought a cummins I would say that now is as good a time as any to buy the 6.7 as they are making them nearly the same price to get some in the marine market place.
 
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I don't think that engine is available any longer unless you can find someone that still has one.I do know that the new 6.7 is around 45K with a gear. It is nearly the same profile and weight as the 5.9, and like the 5.9 its not sleaved but does have a higher maximum rpm. Having just bought a cummins I would say that now is as good a time as any to buy the 6.7 as they are making them nearly the same price to get some in the marine market place.

Adding to Mike's comments.
My understanding is the QSB 5.9s will be offered through the RECON program til the end of this year. After that the availability will be "what's on the pallets"
 

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Remember if you do buy a recon package from Cummins it cannot go in a new hull. Cumins will sell it to you but they will not activate the warranty, you must buy a new engine. Quite a crock of shit would'nt you say. I know this to be fact, I wanted to buy a recon 8.3 QSC but they would'nt activate the warranty if I did. It was going in a new hull.
 

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Remember if you do buy a recon package from Cummins it cannot go in a new hull. Cumins will sell it to you but they will not activate the warranty, you must buy a new engine. Quite a crock of shit would'nt you say. I know this to be fact, I wanted to buy a recon 8.3 QSC but they would'nt activate the warranty if I did. It was going in a new hull.

AH YES Mike,

Good point, forgot about the crazy regs !
BTW, a yr. or two ago I spoke with a guy in ME who's dad built a new 32 Holland stick boat, new maybe 4-5 yrs. ago.

As I understand it he was able to put a RECON Cummins in it as a "commercial boat" with some "understanding" with the state reg folks that the boat would remain a commercial boat for @ least 5 yrs.

No idea on the truth in this per regualtions, just passing it along.

No problem buying "new" as long as you have the pocket book to cover it. :D
 

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As it was explained to me, you cannot put a recon into a new hull and get it signed off on. That does not mean that you can't buy one and then get some other Cummins cerified dealer to sign off on it (wink wink) but if Mr. Cummins finds out he will pull his dealers license and certification. It is nothing more than a scam that Cummins has set up to force you into paying way too much for way to little.
 

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As it was explained to me, you cannot put a recon into a new hull and get it signed off on. That does not mean that you can't buy one and then get some other Cummins cerified dealer to sign off on it (wink wink) but if Mr. Cummins finds out he will pull his dealers license and certification. It is nothing more than a scam that Cummins has set up to force you into paying way too much for way to little.

True Mike,

btw, what was the $difference$ between the new QSC vs RECON QSC ?

Last time I checked a RECON QSC 500 without gear was around $40 +- depending on options.
 

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I would say the difference is around 20%. The beauty of the recon deal is that you do not need to provide a core engine. The cost in the end will be more money than the "engine" quote due to the fact that you need all the special gauges as well as electronic controls, in order to avoid potentiometers, soft mounts blah blah blah. The days of an engine quote containing everything you need to make it run and work in a boat are over unless you get the quote from Ivecco. All the manufacturers are pulling the old "look how cheap mine is" bullshit.
 

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Price

So are we to surmise that a QSC with a gear is north of 50k:eek:
 

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8.3 QSC 500hp- If you are north of fifty with almost all the options your shopping in the wrong spot. I cannot speak of higher horsepower models. There is no difference between the different horsepower models as far as the engine goes, its all programming.
 

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I believe Cummins had a 6.7 on display at the Norwalk Boat show this past weekend. The one thing I noticed was how much bigger it was then the 5.9. I think the engine was rated at 350 HP and it looked much bigger then even the QSC that was right next to it. Nice engine but very big. The Cummins Rep. also told me that you can now get a Recon with a 6 year 10,000 hour extended warranty. I was actually suprised when I heard this as well, so don't hold me to it.
 

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I believe Cummins had a 6.7 on display at the Norwalk Boat show this past weekend. The one thing I noticed was how much bigger it was then the 5.9. I think the engine was rated at 350 HP and it looked much bigger then even the QSC that was right next to it. Nice engine but very big. The Cummins Rep. also told me that you can now get a Recon with a 6 year 10,000 hour extended warranty. I was actually suprised when I heard this as well, so don't hold me to it.

The following measurements are from Cummins:

The new QSB 6.7 is a bit bigger than the QSB 5.9

1.67 " taller
1.62" wider
1.7" longer from the flywheel housing to the front of engine
0.1" over all longer than the QSB 5.9
1.86" shorter behind the flywheel
2 lbs. lighter than the QSB 5.9

fwiw,

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you will get the best price from someone who is not a cummins dealer...a boatbuilder or mechanic is what i have found, sounds funky right
i talked with the head marine guy at cummins northeast and got his price and the last thing he said was that his own distributors could probably get me a better price than his and it ended up being just the case. i purchased a qsm11 with a 5082 twin disc from a local boat builder and his price was better than directly dealing with cummins and last year this time it was in the low 50s for a new qsm11 405hp with a gear
 
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