BHM vs Duffy vs Flower Hull and running flat

osprey47

1st Mate
Joined
Oct 5, 2012
Posts
267
Likes
68
Location
Annapolis, MD
First Name
Joe
Boat Make
BHM 36 w/ Yanmar 6LYA-STE
Need your help. Seriously looking at 36-38' Downeast boat (single prop) and want one that runs flat at 12-14kts. Want to keep the bow down and stern up. How do these hulls compare? thanks
 

osprey47

1st Mate
Joined
Oct 5, 2012
Posts
267
Likes
68
Location
Annapolis, MD
First Name
Joe
Boat Make
BHM 36 w/ Yanmar 6LYA-STE
Powderpro,
Can I dig a bit further. What is it about the Flowers hull that makes it superior? And, how does that compare to the BHM? Thanks for your time!
 

Blitzen

Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
5,837
Likes
6,864
Location
Sumday Isle, RI
Boat Make
Flowers Boat Works 46 hull #1, Flowers Boat Works 36 hull #1, Wayne Beal 28 Hull #1, Repco 30 1968,
Powderpro,
Can I dig a bit further. What is it about the Flowers hull that makes it superior? And, how does that compare to the BHM? Thanks for your time!
There are a lot of things, new design to handle todays high HP engines, larger prop apperture, wider keel for larger shafts to and not to mention Kens and Spencers special touches.
 

captainlarry84

Admiral
Joined
Sep 13, 2011
Posts
1,295
Likes
241
Location
Freeport NY
Boat Make
KristenFormer Charter Captain
Good horse rate

I think we have to consider your budget line & sea ability ;

Flowers is #1 Skeg built flat running, state of the art keel & modern design which comes with a modern price.

Duffy is #2 Built down old school and easy to push flat at 12-14 knots.

BHM#3 Also built down needs more power that the duffy to run

All great boats.

Recap in pricing from the least to the most:
BHM36
Duffy 35
Flowers 38

Money aside:
Flowers 38
Duffy 35
BHM 36

All of the hulls you are considering are DE winners. Find the one that fits you needs & budget.
 

Powderpro

Admiral
Joined
Dec 3, 2011
Posts
4,634
Likes
5,635
Location
The Ocean
Website
www.oneilboats.com
Boat Make
O'Neil
Powderpro,
Can I dig a bit further. What is it about the Flowers hull that makes it superior? And, how does that compare to the BHM? Thanks for your time!

The Flowers is one of the newest designed DE boats available, and all the great and proven designs were incorporated into it. I personally believe it is one of the premier designs available in the 36'-38' class. It's bow is designed to deliver a soft ride, it has a nice big keel to accomodate a large propeller (I believe a 30" diameter), the hull is deep to accomodate the new larger engines, it runs flat and efficient, it has a nice 13'+ beam, it goes very well with modest hp. The other 2- 38' hulls I like are the new Lowell Brothers 38' and the Wesmac 38'. Which one is the "best" comes down to personal preference and your needs and requirements. I would visit the builders of each boat you are considering, look at the molds, look at the build process, talk to owners, ask questions. The 37' Duffy is also a nice boat, but it isn't quite as big as the 38' hulls, especially the 38' Flowers which is a little wider than the Lowell Brothers and Wesmac. If you compare apples to apples, a 36', 37', and 38' boat are going to cost about the same to build. So why not go with a 38' and get the most boat for the money.
 

osprey47

1st Mate
Joined
Oct 5, 2012
Posts
267
Likes
68
Location
Annapolis, MD
First Name
Joe
Boat Make
BHM 36 w/ Yanmar 6LYA-STE
Actually some bow rise...the youtube clip of the Flowers is what I am thinking.
 

Powderpro

Admiral
Joined
Dec 3, 2011
Posts
4,634
Likes
5,635
Location
The Ocean
Website
www.oneilboats.com
Boat Make
O'Neil
Where does the Clvin Beal 38 fit into this discussion?

If you want the biggest 38' downeast boat, then the Calvin Beal is your ticket. 15' beam, easily fit a 32" diameter prop, it's a beast. Won't deliver as soft of a ride as the Flowers or Lowell Brothers, but it is a battle ship that will carry a tremendous amount of weight and pushes easy for such a large boat. It's definitely the biggest boat for the money. I paid $1,500 more for my Wesmac 38' than the CB 38' would have cost me, but I felt the Wesmac fit my needs better. Some recent CB 38's have been powered with the JD's 9 liter 500hp and topped out at 22 knots.
 

tomy

1st Mate
Joined
Sep 5, 2011
Posts
346
Likes
21
Boat Make
36 Wayne Beal
then there's wayne beal (like mine)

Osbond beal (h & H)

Calvin beal

beal island boats

who did I miss?
 

Blitzen

Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
5,837
Likes
6,864
Location
Sumday Isle, RI
Boat Make
Flowers Boat Works 46 hull #1, Flowers Boat Works 36 hull #1, Wayne Beal 28 Hull #1, Repco 30 1968,
I'm saving up my pennies and a few nickels for one of these; a 42' Wesmac with about 700hp.

It is a much better boat with 300 more ponies.
 

Blitzen

Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
5,837
Likes
6,864
Location
Sumday Isle, RI
Boat Make
Flowers Boat Works 46 hull #1, Flowers Boat Works 36 hull #1, Wayne Beal 28 Hull #1, Repco 30 1968,
then there's wayne beal (like mine)

Osbond beal (h & H)

Calvin beal

beal island boats

who did I miss?

I am assuming from the opening post that he is looking at built down boats the one you listed are all skeg boats.
 

thegame

Deckhand
Joined
Oct 14, 2012
Posts
5
Likes
1
hey guys I'm new here but in a ball park figure what does the 33flowers go for or a 36 wesmac cost? to build with a 22 -25 knots running speed
 

Blitzen

Admiral
Joined
Sep 1, 2011
Posts
5,837
Likes
6,864
Location
Sumday Isle, RI
Boat Make
Flowers Boat Works 46 hull #1, Flowers Boat Works 36 hull #1, Wayne Beal 28 Hull #1, Repco 30 1968,
hey guys I'm new here but in a ball park figure what does the 33flowers go for or a 36 wesmac cost? to build with a 22 -25 knots running speed

Depending on your level of finish a 33 Flowers is going to be 200-250. 38 Wesmac will be more.
 


Top Bottom