- Jan 30, 2021
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So the real answer is who really knows where the bureaucrats will take you? What a long strange trip it could be.
I bought a boat that was documented. I didn’t know anything about documentation. i read at if a bat is documented then it’s illegal for a boat to be registered with a state. I compared the two prices and found that documentation was cheaper, so I went with that. When I went to pay sales tax in VT, I found that the state charges a similar priced non-registration fee if the boat is in the water for thirty days or more a season. Not so cool!How does documenting change this discussion? Or does it? If you live in a non-tax state when you buy it, document it, then move into a tax state? Do they look at documented boats?
You are incorrect. This is a common method in CT and Ma to get around their respective taxes. If you live in Ma, you need to pay the tax there regardless of registering it in RI. The fees in RI are equal to any tax in CT or Ma. However, a boat that spends more than 90 days in RI waters must be registered there, this is the same rule that applies to CT and Ma. Keep in mind to operate a RI registered vessel in RI waters you'll need a RI boater's license. Rhode Island Boating Laws & Regulations | Boat Ed® http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/managementservices/licenses/boating-registration.php
USCG allows States to register and collect sales tax. Every state is different, USCG only enforces Federal law. Some states even title documented boats. Also if registering a boat it's in the state of principal use or storedahh....not necessary true. It's "time" in RI waters. And I hate calling it "registered" because it really isn't. It's just a sticker and a fee, not really a registration (for documented vessels). Documented boats, cannot be registered with a state.
can't title a Documented vessel, at least that is my understanding. Please show me where this is possible.USCG allows States to register and collect sales tax. Every state is different, USCG only enforces Federal law. Some states even title documented boats. Also if registering a boat it's in the state of principal use or stored
You wondered who never found him, mass or fl ?If this boat was Documented, then I guess I understand why they never found you. Was it slipped, or moored? Did you have to deal with any municipal govt. to permit moori g or dockage? Wondering so we can undrstand how Florida might handle it at least...
It was stored at a storage yard then cruised. Never moored or in a marina.If this boat was Documented, then I guess I understand why they never found you. Was it slipped, or moored? Did you have to deal with any municipal govt. to permit moori g or dockage? Wondering so we can undrstand how Florida might handle it at least...
You are correct. No sales tax on boats registered and kept full-time in RI. I live in CT, Keep my boat at a marina in RI. My boat has been registered and kept in RI for 20
Are you documenting the boat with the coast guard? I believe you have to have some form of registration/identification number on the boat. I bought a boat in Florida. Didn't pay any sales tax on it. Had it delivered to NY, in the fall when purchased. Trailered it to Mass where it remained. Documented it with the coast guard. Traded it some years later for a boat in New Jersey. Trailered it to New York myself, then trailered it to Mass as I did the first boat. Documented boat number 2 as well. Some years later New York taxation is inquiring about the boats documented and wanting proof of sales tax. I told them the boat was not in New York, but in Mass. So, they asked me how it got there. I told the person on the phone I transported it there. They asked me to write a letter indicating I trailered it there myself. So, I obliged with a letter with proof the boat was in Mass. Next thing I know I've got a bill for about $30,000. in sales tax, penalties and interest. They entrapped me with the letter I supplied. Claimed the boat was deemed used in New York because it was under my control in New York while I trailered it. They backed off on boat number one but wouldn't number 2. They dropped the penalties but not the interest. Cost me $14,000. Apparently, the state data mined the coast guard data base looking for boats documented by New Yorkers that had no record of sales tax. No one would have the expectation that a boat bought somewhere else and docked in waters other that your state of residence would require you to pay sales tax to your state of residence. Had I any idea, I would have paid the sales tax in the beginning. It would have been cheaper. I believe these investigators get more money for cases they close. So, they're ruthless in their approach to information gathering. In today's world of technology and data it's a risky game to attempt to avoid the sales tax. The only way I would have avoided the tax to New York is if I had it delivered to Mass and took ownership of it there. But Mass would then have a claim against it for sales tax. You can't beat them. Sooner or later, they find you.You are correct. No sales tax on boats registered and kept full-time in RI. I live in CT, Keep my boat at a marina in RI. My boat has been registered and kept in RI for 20 years.