Calvin Beal 38

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anyone own one and if so share your opinions on the boat, considering a build witha 650 cummins curious as to how it will perform thank you

looking to upgrade from a MC32 and considering CB 36 or 38, wesmac 38
 

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anyone own one and if so share your opinions on the boat, considering a build witha 650 cummins curious as to how it will perform thank you

looking to upgrade from a MC32 and considering CB 36 or 38, wesmac 38
38 calvin makes the 38 wesmac look little, Wesmac made its name becuase of the 42 which is a completely different beast than the 38.
I would however, put a 38 calvin against a 42 wesmac in its capabilities and sea keeping abilities. That 38 calvin is a beast, if not the biggest in its class,. It depends on your use I suppose.
 

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As different as the CB and Wesmac are from each other, I wonder what you are really looking for in an upgraded boat? I noticed your other threads too. In one, you referred to a 20 kt. cruise. I'm curious how you use your boat - Commercial fishing? Charter? I'll send you a PM with my contact info if you'd like to discuss some of the options I can offer.
 

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I would also love to hear some feedback and pictures of the 38 CB. I like the 40H&H( even though it's wet ,a second set of spray rails could fix that) and have decided that If things turn around ,it would be between the 38 CB and the 40H&H.It's only a dream for now.
 

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Cb 38

The CB 36 and 38 are large for their length and actually they are my dream boats. I looked at a 38 being built this spring at the SW Boatworks Shop and I could not believe how big and solid they are. Capt Stewart Workman has the molds and has one under construction now in his shop in Lamoine Maine www.swboatworks.com and I he can tell you everything you wanted to know about a CB 38. His number is 207-460-1411 and I am sure he will be glad to talk to you.

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I second talking to Capt Stew Workman, he is a real nice guy.
I would take the 38 or 36 beal over the 38 wesmac. Just my opinion.
 

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I think I could put 2 of my NB36 hulls inside that 38! I would be curious to hear real world #'s and head and following sea performance. There has to be a draw back from such a big hull I would think? My guess would be a real tough head sea but I have never been on one.
 

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They pound really hard, commercial tuna fish on one. Great boat for lobstering because of their beam and ability to hold gear. They are also fast because of how they flatten out, but they pound real hard.
 
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What about tabs? I'm sure the would help the ride. How would the 38 CB do head to head with a 38 H&H? Great hearing from those that know DE boats.Thanks
 

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I have spent many hours on a 38 H&H and the Calvin and I would take the Calvin any day of the week. the H&H is too much of a roller coaster. once she starts rocking you can't stop it. on and off anchor. As with the Calvin you can be side to and hardly tell. I would also stay away from the 38 Wesmac... If you want the Wesmac go with the 42'.
 

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okay seeing some mixed reviews on the calvin 36 and 38 i did a little homework and spoke to a few owners all feedbag very posative but i still would like anyones opinion on jim beals 38 the south shore 38 and flowers 38 seems like on paper jims 38 somewhat goes neck in neck with calvins to a certain degree were as flowers is more on the lines of a stretched recongigures nb36 anyway i'll be riding on hopefully all 3 when i make the rounds in a few weeks however any input from anyones experiences would be appreciated
 

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okay seeing some mixed reviews on the calvin 36 and 38 i did a little homework and spoke to a few owners all feedbag very posative but i still would like anyones opinion on jim beals 38 the south shore 38 and flowers 38 seems like on paper jims 38 somewhat goes neck in neck with calvins to a certain degree were as flowers is more on the lines of a stretched recongigures nb36 anyway i'll be riding on hopefully all 3 when i make the rounds in a few weeks however any input from anyones experiences would be appreciated
I didn't read the thread but I'm guessing that you are refering to Flowers 38 and SW CB. They are both the same boat made from the same mold. Finishers differences apply.
 

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Fishwishin,
I think you made a typo it is the South shore 38 made by Jimmy Beal and the CB 38 that almost the same. The Flowers 38 is a totally different animal all together. It is much bigger than the Duffy 37 and NB 36 & 38.
 

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Flowers 38 is a new design from Spencer Lincoln, different hull then the CB 38.
 

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Thanks for the correction. I thought SW got the molds from Flowers prior to or about the time of the new 36/38 mold design.
 

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flowers and jim beal

I spoke to both the 38 flowers is somewhat of a hybrid if you will, he in our conversation pointed out what he did as far as taking features from each and including it in a "new" hull. From his experiences their fast, I guess the biggest difference after bottom comparisons would be overall mass regarding beam and LOA , extremly knowledgeable gentleman, Jim Beal has the 38 south shore and has been having succes building them evidenced by the wait for a new hull.Jim built my first boat a 31 in 1989 and it still looks and runs great a testiment to his work. So for the moment its a 4 horse race Calvin 38, JB 38, Flowers 38 and I have to research waynes 40 the biggest problem is locatin the 38's in NY If anyone has one or is further south that would help prior to going all the way up this will be my 4th DE and probably my last so I'll take whatever info and experiences anyone cares to share
 

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VPC- As you suggested, a 38' Calvin Beal with a 650 hp diesel would be a great boat. The 38' Calvin Beal is actually 38'9" in length and is beamy at 15'. I boarded a 38' Calvin in Stewart Workman's shop, and it is large and roomy. The 38 Wesmac (beam 12'8"), the 38' Flowers (beam 13'6") and 36 Calvin Beal (beam 13'9") are all substantially smaller than the 38 Calvin. The 38' Calvin is also deeper (more freeboard) than the other boats. The nice thing about the smaller boats you have mentioned is that a 500 hp 8.3 Cummins would cruise them all at 20 knots (unless of course they were real heavy). If you have a lot of amenities and carry around a ton of stuff in the boat, then the bigger boat with bigger power with bigger prop will make you happier, but it's bigger money too. The bigger boat like the 38' Calvin or 40' Wayne Beal requires a more expensive engine, which requires a more expensive transmission, which requires a more expensive shaft, which requires a more expensive prop, with requires a more expensive... It's crazy how going to the next size up in boat requires a lot more money. Of the 38' and under crowd, the 38' Flowers is the biggest vs. the 38 Wesmac, 37 Duffy, 36 Calvin; and the Flowers will have the softest ride. A 38' Flowers would be a tough combo to beat with a 500 hp diesel hooked to a 30" prop. If your boat will have every amenity and all the goodies, and the extra price isn't an issue, then the 38 Calvin or 40 Wayne with 650 hp and a 34" prop would make for a nice boat.

So really it all comes down to how you will use the boat, what you expect of the boat, and how much money you have to spend. My dream boat would be a 46' Wesmac with 1,000 hp, but I can't afford it :(
 
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Powderpro,

I was on that 38 CB in Stews shop and was blown away at how big it was. There are some great boats out there when we are comparing the ones mentioned. Take that 38 CB to Bristol Bay and you will carry some serious salmon with that hull.

Dave
 
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