Gulf of Maine Cod done?

JasonD

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91% reduction is the number that the powers that be are looking to get.....
91%, thats 9% less than a total fishery shutdown
Ho-leeeee sheeee-it
They say nothing about the 1 BILLION(yes Billion) pounds of herring coming out of the gulf causing the migration of Cod stocks to the southard....or the dogs eating the scrod...what do you guys think
 

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I think you're right. They manage in isolation, only looking at 'their numbers'. Lose the food stock and you lose the predators. I don't know what to do about it tho. Fought plenty of fights with them, all loses in my book. I question their science, as well as the hidden agendas.

I'm open to ideas, anyone?
 

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The problem all started in the 90's with the Sustainable Fisheries Act and then onto the Magnuson Reauthorization Acts. Basically, ALL fish stocks had to be rebuilt in a 10 year time frame to their respective historical levels.

That means everything in the ocean has to be at it's peak abundance at the same time. How in the hell can that happen?

Last summer I read a report where science has "discovered" that haddock prey on herring eggs. So with so much haddock around, which is a "rebuilt" stock, how can this not affect the herring population?

In the end, it doesn't really matter what eats what. Like anything else, ya just can't have it all.
 

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Yes they do and dogfish eat cod, haddock herring, pollock, cusk, hake, and anything else in their way....but it is overfishing, yeah right.
 

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Maybe the scientist should come watch swarms of dogs attacking dart wounds on giants....then they will maybe understand
 

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Ya theres a ton of cod around still in some parts, but i do agree something has to be done. As for dogs maybe just bump the quota a little more? Even though they just did that. And the herring draggers... they are the reason for some of the fanominal tuna fishing. Ugly situation all around. One thing is for sure though. If the cod stocks are in the shi##er than continuing to catch too many is not going to help. And anyone want to explain why years ago they chose to have gillnetters get our cod vs rod and reel commercially?
 

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It always seems like the rec guys,who want nothing but to have a little fun & to put a few fillets in the freezer ,take the brunt of the punishment.Something stinks here.Think it might be the politicians?
 

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Coddock,

If this survey holds up it will be a 91 percent reduction across the board. Honestly I believe with the heavy involvement by politicians and others there is a strong demand to reconduct the trawl survey. Time will tell what happens.

Thanks,

Dave
 

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sad deal is now when you want to go jump on head boat or 6 pack with some friends there will be no boats to do that on everybody will be out of business. how do you talk a guy into spending 100 to 200 bucks to go catch 2 cod and 9 haddock.. i am sure the as-hole that came up with this has no family in the fishing business. probally never even been fishing. probally sitting on the toilet trying to figure out how to wipe his as- with a plastic bag so he can save a tree too.
 
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As a charter boat owner who conducted over seventy cod fishing trips last year I am sitting on pins and needles here. I am getting calls and emails from customers which state:

We went on a trip with you last April and had a good time. I am just checking in with you because I read an article in the paper a couple of days ago that indicated that they were proposing cutting cod fishing by up to 90%. Just wondering what your take on the situation is. Is that proposal for commercial fisherman or recreational or both? Also when will the new regulations be put in place?

Valued customers who have fished with us in the past are not booking trips yet, we are telling them to please pick a date, send in your deposit so your desired date is held and if things go to hell we will reimburse your deposit.

These regulators and the elected officials seem to think this is only a commercial fishing issue. They don't understand that most charter boats are financed and the business plan is based upon running trips. My question to all the regulators and environmental groups if the fleets get tied up is this. How would you like to have to move out of your house, pay your dockage, I mean taxes, monthly mortgage, insurance and by the way you can not sell it because you have no value? It would cripple the real estate market much worse than now and that is what will happen if a very low bag limit is put into plave. When I bought RELNTLESS back in 2001 I did it with a year round business plan fishing for cod. SInce then we were reduced to a ten fish bag limit while our southern boats fishing Georges and BI were at no bag limit. I believe we should all have a ten fish limit for cod per person. Then the council decided to take away and not allow us to fish for cod from November - March. Then the council decided we needed to have two more weeks of closures which is a forty two percent annual closure to recreational and charter boats fishing in the GOM for cod.

We all know that when a customer comes north from PA or NY and arrives the night before for the $1300 charter they get three hotel rooms for one to two nights, eat in the restaurants, buy lunches at the deli or grocery store, gas up locally and stop in the tackle shop to buy new gear. The $1300 trip is worth much more to the economy. This is what bothers me when we have had this situation brewing and not one elected official has concerns for our industry even though we have taken hits just like the commercial sector.

It all boils down to us not having hired lobyists and I recommend folks join the Recreational Fishing Alliance, National Association of Charter Boat Operators an the Stellwagen Bank Charter Boat Associaton if they fish Stellwagen Bank. Each of these groups does write letters and attends NEFMC meetings to voice our needs and concerns trying to protect the industry and the rights of the recreational angler.

Lastly I would love to build a new CB 36 and this plays a major decision in the process unless I change homeports to Rhode Island and fish other areas in the winter and tuna fish in the summer. Only time will tell what the devil will do.

By the way lets not forget how the Stellwagen Sanctuary is trying to close nearly 250 sqare miles to fishing of some sort to commercial and receational fishing. The areas defined as hook and line only WILL become no fishing zones. When this was tabled under the guise of job loss the Stellwagen Alive group along with the OCean River Institute out of Cambridge, MA is driving a letter writing campaign to Secratary John Bryson requesting the Sanctuary Environmantal Research Area (SERA) be put into place. Stellwagen Alive!

This group is also proud how they delivered over 1500 letters to NMFS requesiting Bluefin Tuna be placed on CITES. OK, enough of this today but please pass onto your friends and families.

Shortly I will be drafting a couple of letters that can be cut and paste for the cod, haddock and SERA situations that I hope members take the time and send along with family members supporting the recreational angler and the charter boat industry. Please note I also feel very sorry for what has taken place to our commercial fisherman as folks like the Marine Sanctuary staff could care less if they put everyone out of business for their own agenda.

Need to get off my soapbox and get a cup of coffee as my blood presure rises just thinking about this.

Dave
 

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ELMAR,

With the boat in the barn with the deck project I will start doing a little bit of haddock on the first of April and then we start cod fishing on the 16th of April the opening day of the fishery in the GOM. I used to be th VP of the Stellwagen Bank Charter Boat Association and try to remain active as my job and time allow to attend meetings and write letters. I will be posting the haddock letters by Tuesday as the deadline for comments is on the 17th. Maybe Bill can keep it up top someplace so folks see it and it does not disapear. The Scientific and Statistical committee meets ont he 25th and will come up with recommendations for the early January NEFMC meeting. Until then not much to do but wait for the proposals. In the meantime folks should remain vigilant about the groups mentioned earlier.

Have a great day and if you know someone who likes cod fishing please give them our link. Relentless Charters - Stellwagen Bank Cod Fishing

Respectfully,

Dave
 

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Regs came out today, starting may 1st, 9 cod at 19", april 15th to april 30th 10 cod at 24"
 

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This SERA was presented on Friday, April 6th to the Habitat Committee of the NEFMC. When this goes out for public comment do not sit back and please resond. Once this goes into effect they will want more until the whole Sanctuary is a big No Fishing Zone.

Dave
 
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