Hauling an anchor on a DE

[BillD]

Hello all,

I may have asked this question already or maybe on another forum.

Could someone explain to me (with pics if available) the techique of deploying and hauling an anchor on a DE. Deploying and hauling using a side davit/pulley and electric or hydraulic hauler.

I watched "Wicked Tuna" last evening and saw the hauling issue with the Bounty Hunter.

The reason I ask is I went mackeral fishing this past weekend on my Blackfin. The boat has a bow pulpit, roller and windlass.

Windy or not it takes 3 of us (maybe two is hauling in shallow water) to haul the anchor.

1. one @ the helm moving the boat forward side to side
2. one @ the windlass to "see where the line is and operating foot pedals up front.
3. one under the v-berth making sure the line being spooled in "free falls" so that the line does not "bunch up" on the windlass.

One of the many reasons I'm considering a DE as a next boat is deploying and hauling an anchor without leaving the cockpit. i.e, being able to do ALL myself!

Thanks for you insight/experience etc.

Bill D

 

[F/V First Team]

deploy technique: heave anchor over the side, let out scope, make fast to bit, back down to set.

bringing anchor to the surface technique: put rode in hauler, turn handle, shake mud off.

 

[hfpd]

Bill
If you don't have a hauler get a stainless anchor pulling ring and hook it on your Glouster Ball. Drive off at an 30 degree angle toward the anchor and the ball will pull the anchor up for you. Once it's up and floating hooked on the ball you can easily pull it in by hand and take your time laying in the fishbox. Works every time.

 

[F/V First Team]

good automatic makes an awesome windlass. works on rope and chain

we've installed many of them and not a single complaint has reached my ears

 

[Capt. Rick]

Anchoring System

Bill, Launching from the cockpit and employing the anchor ball works fine, we
call that Montauk style. But for us hardcore wreck guys who often make multiple drops each day, an anchoring system is something to consider. Makes laying two a pleasure. Here is how we rigged up the Miss Beryl. If anyone has any questions fire away.

 

[BillD]

deploy technique: heave anchor over the side, let out scope, make fast to bit, back down to set.

bringing anchor to the surface technique: put rode in hauler, turn handle, shake mud off.

Bill
If you don't have a hauler get a stainless anchor pulling ring and hook it on your Glouster Ball. Drive off at an 30 degree angle toward the anchor and the ball will pull the anchor up for you. Once it's up and floating hooked on the ball you can easily pull it in by hand and take your time laying in the fishbox. Works every time.

F/V, I understand that. To retreive the anchor you'd motor up on some slack rode and run it through the pulley/hauler? Any risk of fouling the wheel doing it that way?

I've used the Gloucester ball routine on the previous Bertram.

Thanks for the comments!

 

[steveinak]

I fish by myself all the time(last 20 years) and i never go up on the bow to anchor, to anchor i just heave the anchor over the side, let out scope, i have a separate line(riding line) going from the bow back to the hauler and i tie my anchor line to this line with a rolling hitch then just let out enough anchor line for the riding line to come tight over the bow, of course i cleat off the anchor line by the hauler. To haul the anchor just uncleat anchor line run up the anchor line to get enough slack to untie the riding line, throw the anchor line on the davit and start the hauler to haul the anchor up done and i never went up on the bow. I takes more time to type this than it does to do it on the boat.

 

[F/V First Team]

only need enough slack in the line to take it off the bit on the bow. the rest of the line is already in the block and hauler ready to go back into its box when the hauling valve is cracked open. no need to creep up on the anchor line, it is taken care of automatically as you wind everything up. use the same method setting the race course for the Searsport Lobster Boat Racces with 150 lb mushroom anchors. saves a lot of strain on the spine.

 

[BillD]

I fish by myself all the time(last 20 years) and i never go up on the bow to anchor, to anchor i just heave the anchor over the side, let out scope, i have a separate line(riding line) going from the bow back to the hauler and i tie my anchor line to this line with a rolling hitch then just let out enough anchor line for the riding line to come tight over the bow, of course i cleat off the anchor line by the hauler. To haul the anchor just uncleat anchor line run up the anchor line to get enough slack to untie the riding line, throw the anchor line on the davit and start the hauler to haul the anchor up done and i never went up on the bow. I takes more time to type this than it does to do it on the boat.

only need enough slack in the line to take it off the bit on the bow. the rest of the line is already in the block and hauler ready to go back into its box when the hauling valve is cracked open. no need to creep up on the anchor line, it is taken care of automatically as you wind everything up. use the same method setting the race course for the Searsport Lobster Boat Racces with 150 lb mushroom anchors. saves a lot of strain on the spine.

Sorry,

In my "mind's eye" I'm "lost" on visualizing both ways of anchoring as described.

F/VFT?
To take the line "off the bit"?
Are you up on the foredeck/bow ?
Or all done from the cockpit?

 

[F/V First Team]

I am up on the bow, but the same could be done with a length of cord and a pelican hook like what Steve described. Just toss a clove hitch on the hook and then snub it with some slack on the hauler cleat. Used to do the pelican hook trick on a BHM20 that we had. Narrow washrails and a bimini top made that the proper choice, but on the 36 the washrails are nice and wide with awesome non-skid so it takes just a moment to flake the rode off the bow and you're back in the cockpit.

 

[Tunascapes]

Bill let's be honest here. It's not that hard just another moronic moment in that show. Line wasn't even in the hauler yet and it was under the boat. When you get up sea of you anchor it will go under the boat every time.

 

[MDI45]

Tuna,you are so right......that series shows nothing in reality

 

[BillD]

Bill let's be honest here. It's not that hard just another moronic moment in that show. Line wasn't even in the hauler yet and it was under the boat. When you get up sea of you anchor it will go under the boat every time.

Tuna,you are so right......that series shows nothing in reality

Of course there's drama in the show !! I understand that.
I remember seeing Steve's (AK) setup on another post or forum way back when.

I can see the "2nd line" attached to the anchor line working.
As you ride up on the anchor line simply haul in the slack, up around pulley/hauler and off you go.

Thanks for the input, appreciated,

Bill D

 

[steveinak]

Bill,
You can see the riding line on the bow here


The other end of the riding line is around the davit in this pic. I leave it there all the time, its short enough so it won't go in the wheel if it comes loose, its handy for tying up to a dock and for anchoring its just pitch the hook over, back up for the scope and tie in the riding line with a rolling hitch. I ain't go'in on the bow when i'm by myself.

 

[BillD]

Exactly !!!!!!!

Bill,
You can see the riding line on the bow here
View attachment 5417

The other end of the riding line is around the davit in this pic. I leave it there all the time, its short enough so it won't go in the wheel if it comes loose, its handy for tying up to a dock and for anchoring its just pitch the hook over, back up for the scope and tie in the riding line with a rolling hitch. I ain't go'in on the bow when i'm by myself.
View attachment 5418

Stay in the boat !

 

[Fishinengineer]

Stay off the BOW

I have to agree with Miss Beryl's set up, nice dual anchor set up. I installed an anchor davit, turned a few blowboat winches into fairleads, and never leave my helm. My hauler is right at the helm and my line locker is under my helm seat. Tossing the anchor out of the side door nearly got me in trouble a few times. With the current close to the beam I must have burried the anchor three feet deep. I'll throw the anchor ball on if I have 1500ft of line out in the canyons and use the hauler to wind in the slack after the shank is in the ring.

 

[MDI45]

fishingengineer,lets see a pic of these home made rollers......the trailer rollers just break apart as you can see .....

 

[steveinak]

fishingengineer,lets see a pic of these home made rollers......the trailer rollers just break apart as you can see .....

if you know anybody with a lathe get some UHMW or Derlin and machine up some nice rollers on your own. Make them with a large diameter so the shackles and chain runs over them nice and easy.

 

[CEShawn]

Rick that is a SWEET SETUP for anchoring...

I run my downeast with just the anchor ball bit and its fine 99% of the time.

In that I also run my brother in laws JC31 out of New Bedford with the two anchor bit, Montauk style, has he is from the island too... Man you can really dial it on a piece of bottom...

 

[DBM]

BillD,

One of the things on my wishlist for our 31 RP was an anchor windlass. Are you telling me that you can't operate the windlass from the cockpit? It seems useless if you need to go forward anyway.

DBM