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Just out of curiosity, and if anyone knows. I am curious which hulls perfrom better in rough seas. I have narrowed down to 3 hulls I am interested in building in the next few years.

o 47' H&H Marine
o 46' Calvin Beal
o 46' Wesmac "Super"

I am probably going with a CAT C13 750 HP, I have no idea of wheel size either. I am very partial to the H&H as the beam is 19'2" and is much cheaper than the Calvins, Wesmac is just crazy but I love the lines.

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Oh, well I guess the comparable hull would be the 50' Wesmac.
 

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yea she's a beast for sure! Not so expensive compared to the other hulls listed either.
 

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The Calvin might be a little more than the H&H, but I bet she'll pay you back at the fuel pump.
 

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42' Osmond is not nearly as wide as 47' Osmond, right? But if you can get an H&H w/ about the same beam as the CB, go for it. I was thinking about 47' Osmond vs. 46' Calvin.
 

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IMR87- I noticed you are from Olympia, WA. What would the boat be used for? I'm assuming you would have the boat trucked to Puget Sound? If so, the wider you go, the more expensive the trucking/transportation will cost and the more difficult the move will be. I have a little experience trucking my DE boats from Maine to Oregon/Washington. I have moved my boats with my own equipment, so I know all the little details of getting a wide boat across the country. My boats have been around 13' beam, so the detours haven't been too ridiculous and I have never needed police escort, but going to 17'-19' wide would be a headache of huge proportions, really expensive, and require highway patrol escorts for some or a lot of the trip. It can be done and big things are moved all the time, but the cost is going to be a really big factor.

If you do go wide body, I'm very partial to Wesmac. The "Super 46" has the same beam as their 50' at 17'6". Their Facebook page on November 11th has some pics of the Super 46' coming out of the mold. It's a big boat. Another nice boat is their 46' that is 14'6" wide. I don't think you could go wrong with a Wesmac, Calvin, or H&H. They are all nice boats built by nice professional guys. I think the best thing is to visit the builders, look at their hulls, bring a tape measure and camera, and take some notes. Good luck.
 

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IMR87- I noticed you are from Olympia, WA. What would the boat be used for? I'm assuming you would have the boat trucked to Puget Sound? If so, the wider you go, the more expensive the trucking/transportation will cost and the more difficult the move will be. I have a little experience trucking my DE boats from Maine to Oregon/Washington. I have moved my boats with my own equipment, so I know all the little details of getting a wide boat across the country. My boats have been around 13' beam, so the detours haven't been too ridiculous and I have never needed police escort, but going to 17'-19' wide would be a headache of huge proportions, really expensive, and require highway patrol escorts for some or a lot of the trip. It can be done and big things are moved all the time, but the cost is going to be a really big factor.

If you do go wide body, I'm very partial to Wesmac. The "Super 46" has the same beam as their 50' at 17'6". Their Facebook page on November 11th has some pics of the Super 46' coming out of the mold. It's a big boat. Another nice boat is their 46' that is 14'6" wide. I don't think you could go wrong with a Wesmac, Calvin, or H&H. They are all nice boats built by nice professional guys. I think the best thing is to visit the builders, look at their hulls, bring a tape measure and camera, and take some notes. Good luck.


Yea PowderPro, I am actually in Olympia WA, for the time being. I'm stationed at Fort Lewis, however I will be getting out of the Army here in about a year. The boat will be used for Lobster on the East Coast, I am looking to build this in the next 3-5 years. Extremely far from know but I am just trying to gather opinions on these hulls. I do appreciate the Wesmac lines, I had "heard" that their hulls don't perform as well as the Calvin or H&H in a storm. Also one thing I am looking for is under 20 gph and a 15+ knot cruise, not sure if that is too much to ask for though, I am extremely new to this.
 

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Yea PowderPro, I am actually in Olympia WA, for the time being. I'm stationed at Fort Lewis, however I will be getting out of the Army here in about a year. The boat will be used for Lobster on the East Coast, I am looking to build this in the next 3-5 years. Extremely far from know but I am just trying to gather opinions on these hulls. I do appreciate the Wesmac lines, I had "heard" that their hulls don't perform as well as the Calvin or H&H in a storm. Also one thing I am looking for is under 20 gph and a 15+ knot cruise, not sure if that is too much to ask for though, I am extremely new to this.

Thanks for your service to our country. I guess transportation to the west coast won't be an issue ;).
 

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Thanks for your service to our country. I guess transportation to the west coast won't be an issue ;).

what about the wayne 46


Powder thank you, it's definitely been an experience.

Richardh, I have considered the wayne beals, there doesn't seem to be any information online for their hulls, I have seen quite a few 40's and I can definitely appreciate their lines as well. However I don't know enough of about them to even consider; Beam, LOA, Draft, PRICE. Haha definitely price is weighing on this decision, and the H&H 47' bare hull is $58,000... hard to compete with that in my opinion.
 

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The 44' Calvin Beal bare hull is only $43,500. That is a steal in my opinion, Stewart is practically giving them away. That is $14,500 less than the H&H. That is a lot of fiberglass for only $43.5k, that's the one I would go for if I wanted a huge boat. It's 17'6" wide. That is some major bang for the buck, and the Calvin Beal name is known and respected. I finished a 34 Calvin a few years back and it was a very nice hull. And Stewart is a professional.

Pricing for 44' Calvin Beal
 
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The 44' Calvin Beal bare hull is only $43,500. That is a steal in my opinion, Stewart is practically giving them away. That is $14,500 less than the H&H. That is a lot of fiberglass for only $43.5k, that's the one I would go for if I wanted a huge boat. It's 17'6" wide. That is some major bang for the buck, and the Calvin Beal name is known and respected. I finished a 34 Calvin a few years back and it was a very nice hull. And Stewart is a professional.

Pricing for 44' Calvin Beal



Powderpro, you have a Wesmac hull correct? How does it perform in a sea? How is the fuel efficiency of it?
 

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Powderpro, you have a Wesmac hull correct? How does it perform in a sea? How is the fuel efficiency of it?

Yes, I purchased a bare 38' hull from Wesmac and finished it into a salmon fishing boat for Alaska, but I just sold that boat about 2 months ago and I'm currently in the process of building/finishing a 40' Lowell Brothers hull for Alaska.

My Wesmac was very impressive in all sea conditions. It was very stable, flat running, efficient, packed weight very well, and most importantly made me money. When you get a Wesmac, you are getting the best in my opinion. They just build a really sweet boat and lay their hulls up very strong. If I had the money and could justify one, I would have a 42' Wesmac with 700-800hp. That is my dream ride. But the Calvin Beals and H&H boats are really great too, I have a lot of respect for all those boat builders. The 44' Calvin is just a bargain in my opinion considering Stewart (the owner of Calvin Beal boats) is a top-tier boat builder, the hull is a proven performer and it's huge, and the Calvin Beal name recognition is second to none. If I was going really big, that's the hull I would go with. When you boil it all down, the 44' Calvin is tough to beat if you are looking for a really wide and big boat.
 
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Seems like you build a new boat almost yearly lol

It's pretty good money, it's something I really enjoy, and I have to pay the bills somehow ;).

IMR- I haven't been on any of the boats you are considering, so my opinion may not matter that much, But I would guess that all the big boats you are considering will handle the rough water well. You would have to be in some really nasty, scary weather to push these boats to the limit, they can handle worse weather than you or I could.

As far as efficiency, I was looking at the numbers on a recently launched 44' Calvin Beal called "OVERKILL". They claim it cruised at 17 knots burning 19 gph, so I think your goal of 15-16 knot cruise at 20 gph is attainable.
For comparisons sake, my 38 Wesmac with 500hp John Deere cruised 19 knots at 14 gph. Obviously the smaller boat is going to be a lot more efficient. Best of luck to you.
 

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What are the prices on wayne beal hulls? I can't seem to locate this information anywhere.
 
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