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would like some feedback on the following would you put lifting rails on a 38 holland if so any details and experiences would be appreciated
 

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Does it need them?I would only put lifting rails on if the boat is sucking the stern down when under power.If they aren't on perfectly strait with the keel they will lift but will also slow you down. Picture a downhill skier doing the snow plow.I know of 5 38's right off hand that don't have them.
 

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Vin,I dont think Glen Holland was a Fan of adding rails to his hull...i dont think you will need them
 

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Glens own words to me was "why put crutches on a boat that don't need em". I'll never forget that. Glen also does not like spray rails, says they restrict the bow from coming out of the wave.
 

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FYI I spoke with Glen and actually it was his suggestion however I'll say this I haven't seen one with them and every 38 i've seen runs really flat which is in a way a testament o the hull i wouldn't put them on just wanted to see what you guys have to say thanks.
 

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rails on this one

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Man O War doesn't have a problem getting its bow out of the water:). I think it has 800hp, which helps a little bit. Nice looking boat.

Go with a hard chine boat and lifting rails will be a thing of the past, J/K;). I'm in Glen's camp, I wouldn't put lifting rails on my own boat. I'm of the opinion that if a boat needs lifting rails bolted onto it to perform better, than just mold the rails into the hull mold, or make a hard chine like a Wesmac or a soft/hard chine like the 37' Duffy.
 

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I have them on my 38. I don't know when they were added and I believe it had spray rails at one time and they were removed. I like the ride with them but have no idea what it was like before they were added. The boat does throw a huge wake not that it's related to the lifting rails
 

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you know i was looking at Man O war and couldn't see the rails i wonder if any one has knowledge of who fisnished the boat would like to pick his brains It seems like most of the CB's have rails my Mitchel Cove did and I think they helped the performance but I'm inclined to not use them on the Holland
 

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you know i was looking at Man O war and couldn't see the rails i wonder if any one has knowledge of who fisnished the boat would like to pick his brains It seems like most of the CB's have rails my Mitchel Cove did and I think they helped the performance but I'm inclined to not use them on the Holland

You are building a new 38 Holland? 1350hp ;)?
 

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just spoke with bruce the owner of man o war pretty smart cookie learned a thing or two or three 14' rails high density foam
 

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Man O War doesn't have a problem getting its bow out of the water:). I think it has 800hp, which helps a little bit. Nice looking boat.

Go with a hard chine boat and lifting rails will be a thing of the past, J/K;). I'm in Glen's camp, I wouldn't put lifting rails on my own boat. I'm of the opinion that if a boat needs lifting rails bolted onto it to perform better, than just mold the rails into the hull mold, or make a hard chine like a Wesmac or a soft/hard chine like the 37' Duffy.

Does it stand to reason a hard chine boat will ride a bit harsh compared to a round/soft chine boat?
 

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I pretty much agree with you, but the beauty of this site is that there is a lot of knowledge from experienced owners I've had downeasters for 30 plus yrs and down my way western Long Island Jamaica Bay to be specific they really were noy very popular in the eighties now they are represented very well
 
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