Mass Commercial ban for bass.

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I have heard a lot of talk about a movement by stripers forever to ban the commercial bass season in Mass. I personaly think this is a terrible idea.

Here are some facts I have seen:

Recreational anglers already have 60% of the catch; why shouldnt the commercial fishermen have some? Cant we share this fishery?
The commercial fishery for striped bass is executed by an estimated 10,000 people, with the vast majority being pin hookers or weekend warriors who simply pay for their own sport by selling their catch. There are some 3,000,000 recreational anglers who fish for striped bass coast wide. Because of very restrictive size limits, most of these recreational anglers are never able to keep any of the fish they catch for their own consumption.

The limits I have heard would be:
1 fish a day 20-26 inches and 1 fish 40inches +


To me this says that the recreational fishery has a big impact on the commercial fishery. Changing these limits will drasticly reduce the population of small fish. Where im from almost every day in the summer you can fish small fish around 18-28 inches on top feeding on bait and it takes about 1 cast to hook a schoolie. Now lets think about how many fish could be taken from one school. A lot. Yes i know, rec. fishermen do not catch as many fish as we commercial fishermen do... except me..

I did some reasearch on this issue and i have found a few things that drasticly stand out to me.

"Stripers Forever pushed unsuccessfully for a commercial ban in 2010. According to the Cape Cod Times, Game fishermen like (Dean Clark, co-chairman of Stripers Forever) say the ban would help what they say is a threatened striped bass population. They argue that the bass are being overfished by commercial boats.

The fishery in my mind is not over fished and last year the bass quota was filled with in 29 days. To me that doesnt seem like there is a lack of fish. This is where my point comes in about the small fish. If we let this limit happen that that could have a large impact on furture fish populations. I know theres a lot behind the spawing and reproduction that i dont really know about but i just think its a little crazy to be able to keep one fish a day 20-26 inches. I just feel the recreational total catch will sky rocket and ruin the possiblity for them to get larger.

I also saw a youtube video presented by stripers forever. I do not have the link but it said that 14000 jobs would be created from the ban of bass fishing. I want to know how? the only thing i see is job loss. From the fisherman himself, wholesalers, cutters who cut the fish, fishmarkets, fuel consumption, local tackel shops all will suffer losses. Obviously some more then others and im not expecting a recession if this ban passes but it will reduce income for people who are involved. Im not one of those people who thinks that every fish should be caught and sold so you can make a profit. If i thought the fishery was in danger then i wouldnt want it to go any further. I dont think its in danger at all. yes we are taking a lot of fish but shutting down the commercial fishery is insane. there are many other things the state can do to help lower this. Such as reduce out of state permits. Sorry if your an out of state fisherman.

My point is this whole stripers forever is gonna ruin the fishery if it happens.

I hope theres other people who know what im trying to say. I hope i didnt put any false information up here.


-Nick
 

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Yeah they want to ban the commercial season for bass, but they won't stop giving the licenses out. Stripe Bass commercial permits have to go into a moratorium there are too many people going to get the licenses. People who have them should be grandfathered in and they should put a hold on getting these licenses. Massachusetts that is.
 

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Being a commercial bass fisherman I really hope this ban dosnt get passed. Also the past few year I have seen some of the most bass I have ever seen out in the deep water when out tuna fishing. And the whole recreational thing with everyone saying it brings more money in. They already know that it does and keeps jobs and people employed but you can say that about ANY type of recreational fishing out there. Being it east coast, west coast or even freshwater
 

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Also I would really love for there to be a way to see how many pounds of fish the Rec. guys took all year last year. Im willing to bet money they caught and kept a whole lot more then us commercial guys that only fished for a month which wasnt even the best bass fishing this season. And on another note these people are going to bitch about anything if the do close it down then in a few years they will compain that there are no mackeral or baitfish around cause the bass are eating to much of them. Or my worst fear is the baby lobster population get whiped out because bass love to eat lobsters
 

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Rkpt Lobsta,iam a commercial rod and reel guy with a bass allocation....we have less then 1000 bass fishermen in the state...i think you guys should put a lic.cap....10,000 commercial bass fishermen is way to much
 

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MDI45 I too think that we have way to many permits out and think we should stop giving new ones out to people that dont have any history becasue i know a good chunk of the permits that are out there are held by people that dont use them
 

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RKPT,what is your season and limits in mass for commercial....if you dont mind me asking
 

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RKPT,what is your season and limits in mass for commercial....if you dont mind me asking

Mass commercial regs are as follows starts July 12, days are Sunday, Tues, Wednesday, Thursday, 30 fish limit per boat per day. Sundays are only allowed 5 fish per boat. Size is 34 inches. Quota for 2011 was
1,061,898 actual caught was 1,163,865 went over 9.6 percent. Amen:D
 

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Mass commercial regs are as follows starts July 12, days are Sunday, Tues, Wednesday, Thursday, 30 fish limit per boat per day. Sundays are only allowed 5 fish per boat. Size is 34 inches. Quota for 2011 was
1,061,898 actual caught was 1,163,865 went over 9.6 percent. Amen:D
Myentourage,WOW...you guy are allowed alot of fish....we start on july 1st and we were allowed 241 tags per fishermen last year.....fish must be 24'' to 36''...closes on dec 15
 

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Yeah they want to ban the commercial season for bass, but they won't stop giving the licenses out. Stripe Bass commercial permits have to go into a moratorium there are too many people going to get the licenses. People who have them should be grandfathered in and they should put a hold on getting these licenses. Massachusetts that is.
I don't think we should go this route with the fishery. I do understand the out of state argument on limiting the amount of licenses, but for instate people, if they want a license they should be able to get one. That is one of the things that is so great about this fishery, anyone can join and profit off of it. We do not want this fishery to become like some of our other grandfathered fisheries where an available permit is unheard of.
I used this fishery as a starting point because I knew how to catch stripers and I could obtain a permit. Therefore this open fishery is allowing more opportunity than a fishery with a strict limit on permits. The fishery does not suffer from the amount of permits issued, thanks to our trip reports and wholesale dealers. If there are a thousand permits out there with people who arn't using them then good, thats $30,000 in striped bass endorsements, money this state could use.
 

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I don't know Duxbait your in a gray area there. I understand where you are coming from but i wouldn't want to take a pole with the commercial bass fisherman out there on that topic. I just can't stand hearing this stuff they are proposing to do, and it is just not fair to the commercial guys that want to make a little something in the short time they have to do it. I'm not saying do this permanantley but at least for some time.
 

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Myentourage,WOW...you guy are allowed alot of fish....we start on july 1st and we were allowed 241 tags per fishermen last year.....fish must be 24'' to 36''...closes on dec 15

Our fishery would never go to Dec 15, we are usually done by the end aug. We have to have our catch reports in by Oct 15. New york and connnecticut definately have a better striper fishery than we have here for some reason. Its not often that guys come in with 30 fish in 1 day. Once the water gets too warm above 70 we have a harder time getting them seems they go into deeper water.
 

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The Com Bass season usually last 18 days, from July 12 to August whenever! Plus there is a set quota. The recs by a $10 saltwater license that's good all year, so if the bass are around they are taking them unmonitored unless they check the fish in. Some dude been catching hold overs on the Cape over 28" during the past 2 months and checking them in to show off.
 

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Our fishery would never go to Dec 15, we are usually done by the end aug. We have to have our catch reports in by Oct 15. New york and connnecticut definately have a better striper fishery than we have here for some reason. Its not often that guys come in with 30 fish in 1 day. Once the water gets too warm above 70 we have a harder time getting them seems they go into deeper water.
myentourage,the same thing happens here with water temps during the summer months.... most of the fish are caught during what we call a fall run......with water temps not dropping that much this winter there are still loads of bass outside our inlets.....but they are off limits..lol
 

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