New Eastern and Seaway 27's with outboards for 2013

[MouseTrap]

Looks like both Eastern and Seaway (same owner) are going to produce wider, non-trailerable boats this year. I know the 27 Seaway Seafarer will debut at the Boston Boat show, I hope the 27 Eastern Islander does too. There is little on their Websites other than "more to come". I know that many people on this forum say that an outboard on a DE hull is blasphemy, but that's what makes the world go round (different opinions).

This is what Easten is saying:

Need more room? This 10′ beam Islander takes it up a notch. A fully enclosed head and sleeping accommodations for 4 set this cabin apart. The cockpit has all the features made popular in our 248 Islander. Plenty of seating and galley features lead the way in a more spacious layout.​

The picture below looks like the current 248. But it is posted under the 27.

Considering that the Easten 248 is pushing $100,000, I wonder what the price point of these models will be?

Here is the layout of the Seaway Seafarer:

 

[roydawn]

new eastern & seaway 27

Ian, Can I ask what make your 21 is? I'm looking for a 21-25 outboard DE & couldn't make out the name of it. I'd love another diesel trawler, but skinny water in the backyard dictates an outboard. Roy

 

[MouseTrap]

21' Nordic Pêcheur (fisherman), out of Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada. Unfortunately, Nordic only builds Go-Fast boats now, and they killed the little Pilot House years ago. Website.

They were originally built by Larivee, which was bought out by Nordic. A 70 HP Suzuki pushes her along at a 15 kts cruise at about 3 gph, and 19 kts WOT at about 5.5 gph. Draws only 8" of water with the engine up.

I bought the boat new from Moriches Boat and Motor in 2002, and they delivered it to Maine.

 

[Eastporter]

Hi Ian,
I'm thinking about installing trim tabs on my boat and wondering if you have the size and brand on your boat. How close are they mounted to the chine? Do you have any photos of the placement? Thank you!

 

[jrg]

If the new Eastern 27 is anything like the old one, I wouldn't consider it a DE. I rode on one when I bought by 24 and the ride was more like one of the hundreds of go-fast center console fishing boats. Hull has a hard chine, lifting strakes and a pretty good amount of deadrise - not sure what degree though. Would take lots more horsepower, and fuel, to get going, that's for sure. The one I rode on had twin 150s, I believe. That being said, still a great boat!

 

[MouseTrap]

I've got Lenco tabs. I think I still have paperwork on them. I'll see if I can find the Model #. I'll take some pics and post them up to show their placement. I really like them on my boat. They are good at correcting an uneven load, and pushing the bow down in a chop.

It will be interesting to see what Eastern/Seaway does with these hulls. The 248 still has a relatively soft chine. The current 27 Tournament 8' 6" beam, has a hard chine. The 24' Seafarer also has a hard chine.

I'm fairly certain I'm not going to consider either of these boats as future purchases. With a cabin that sleeps four, I think it will eat up a lot of cockpit space on a 27', which is where we spend 95% of our time.

Truth be told, I have been corresponding with Troy Alley about a custom build. I think that if and when I'm ready to move up (and I'm not yet), it will be into something that he has custom built. I really like the idea of a variation of his 31' x 12' model he built for the 2011 Lobster Boat Races. The Double Taker had a 19' cockpit. I think I would do a small enclosed cabin for a solid three season use. I would set it up as a single engine, as I don't need it to do anywhere near 50+ mph .

 

[Eastporter]

Thanks for the info. Are they 12" x 9" or so? I've read trim tabs should be installed about 3" from the chine. On a soft chine like mine I wonder if it would be better to go closer to the outside or move an inch or two in. Thoughts?

 

[roydawn]

new eastern & seaway 27

Ian, Thanks for the reply. I just found this site & love it. I LOVED & wanted Magnolia Sun's 24 Eastern, then found out it was sold. Really bummed out! It would really have "made my day". Oh well, still looking! Roy

 

[MouseTrap]

Thanks for the info. Are they 12" x 9" or so? I've read trim tabs should be installed about 3" from the chine. On a soft chine like mine I wonder if it would be better to go closer to the outside or move an inch or two in. Thoughts?

I believe they are 12x9". Can't put my finger on the paperwork. I would say they are about 3" from the start of the curve of the chine. Here are pictures from today.

 

[Eastporter]

Thank you so much for posting the photos and dimensions. Very helpful!

 

[22novicc]

here is the best pic of my trim tabs i could find on my computer, i would think the further out they were the more they would help with correcting an uneven load, im not sure of the size but i think they are a little bigger then 12"x9"

 

[MDI45]

Mousetrap,was that the boat that went to long island ny...

 

[Eastporter]

I noticed that neither of you painted the tabs with antifoul. I think that if I don't paint mine they will get some serious growth. Zincs are a given right? Do you have issues with barnacles?

 

[MouseTrap]

Mousetrap,was that the boat that went to long island ny...

I bought the boat new from Conrad at Moriches Boat and Motor, he delivered it to Maine (great guy). There were two Long Island dealers that sold these, the other was Frank Hunter in Freeport (out of business, NOT a great guy).

 

[MouseTrap]

I noticed that neither of you painted the tabs with antifoul. I think that if I don't paint mine they will get some serious growth. Zincs are a given right? Do you have issues with barnacles?

I haven't coated mine. They will grow quite the beard by the end of the season. I generally attack it with a scrub pad every couple of weeks. No zincs on mine. No troubles with barnacles, but I've grown some healthy mussel colonies!

 

[MouseTrap]

Oh wait MDI45, I think I misunderstood. The pictures of the boat I would like to build did go to Oakdale Long Island. He was Greendog on Northeast Fishing Forums. He has since moved to Florida I think.

 

[22novicc]

I haven't coated mine. They will grow quite the beard by the end of the season. I generally attack it with a scrub pad every couple of weeks. No zincs on mine. No troubles with barnacles, but I've grown some healthy mussel colonies!

i have only coated the underside, but never the top, it takes about 5 mins once a month with a putty knife to keep them clean

 

[MDI45]

I bought the boat new from Conrad at Moriches Boat and Motor, he delivered it to Maine (great guy). There were two Long Island dealers that sold these, the other was Frank Hunter in Freeport (out of business, NOT a great guy).

Thats what i have heard also..a little slippery

 

[MouseTrap]

Frank Hunter, Freeport, NY. I bought two boats from him in the past. He sold one of them for me as a broker. I'm glad I got my money out of him.