Northern Bay 38 Engine selction

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Makes total sense to me. My plan is to build a boat that will appeal to more people and be much more affordable compared to the Wesmac 46 I had. I would like to get one built and put it on the market right away and then build another one.
Why dont you just get your hands on the 48 nb plans and own the mold. You would be king of the hill.
 

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I would like to see the fuel burn and performance numbers of a D13 800hp in a 38NB fully finished off. I'm 1:1 at 2000 rpms at 23-24knt in a D11 670hp. My boat is 24,000lbs so I'm on the heavier side. Same finish with a D13 will put you around 25,000 lbs. Lobster boat finish without all the bells and whistles will be around 19,000lbs. Very curious as to what an apples to apples comparison would be.
 

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The 900 and 1000 are twin turbo, the 900 is a 2300rpm engine, the 1000 is a 2400rpm engine. 900 will spin the same prop as the 1000, so only advantage the 1000 has is a little top end speed after you get above 2300rpm. So if you plan on running your engine at 2400rpm often, then go with the 1000. If you plan on running at a more reasonable cruise speed of 1950 rpm, then the 900 performs the same as the 1000.

800 is a single turbo and a 2300rpm engine, at 1950rpm cruise, you would probably be giving up 1-1.5 knots of speed versus the 900/1000.
Volvo came out with the 900 first. They then introduced new turbo technology and were able to take the same motor to 1000 hp. In a twin application it makes a more noticeable difference adding 20O hp but in a single application your looking at 1/2 knot difference. Physiologically 1000 sounds alot better and you have the latest and greatest turbo technology as well. You also my see that 1000 hp version get bumped up in hp as well.
 

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Not all of use can have the perfect boat. Hahha
Definitely not perfect. Lot’s of tinkering around trying to get there but always two steps forward and one step back. My three Anchor Marine hatches in the aft section leak like a sieve. I’ve been messing with them all year. They’re coming out over the winter.
 

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The 900 and 1000 are twin turbo, the 900 is a 2300rpm engine, the 1000 is a 2400rpm engine. 900 will spin the same prop as the 1000, so only advantage the 1000 has is a little top end speed after you get above 2300rpm. So if you plan on running your engine at 2400rpm often, then go with the 1000. If you plan on running at a more reasonable cruise speed of 1950 rpm, then the 900 performs the same as the 1000.

800 is a single turbo and a 2300rpm engine, at 1950rpm cruise, you would probably be giving up 1-1.5 knots of speed versus the 900/1000.
I think the 800 or 900 is the way to go
 

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I can tell you one thing, the 38 nb mold has a good home now. John has had the drawing of a 48 for some time. Maybe someone will turn it into a mold someday. That would one hot hull.
What’s the background and experience behind the guys who now own the Northern Bay 38 Mold.?

Reputable?

Well capitalized?

Etc?
 

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What’s the background and experience behind the guys who now own the Northern Bay 38 Mold.?

Reputable?

Well capitalized?

Etc?
They have some of the best molds in the DE world. They do really good work and are quite reliable. You can speak to Ryan above. One of the things working against the DE world is the length if time it takes to complete a build. Sabre builds 48 foot boats from start to finish in 16 weeks. Too bad we didnt have that ability to do the same with some common layouts. You could then really pump these out and I could get Natalie to do your commercials for you. You could be the Herb Chambers of the DE world. Lol.
 
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I would like to see the fuel burn and performance numbers of a D13 800hp in a 38NB fully finished off. I'm 1:1 at 2000 rpms at 23-24knt in a D11 670hp. My boat is 24,000lbs so I'm on the heavier side. Same finish with a D13 will put you around 25,000 lbs. Lobster boat finish without all the bells and whistles will be around 19,000lbs. Very curious as to what an apples to apples comparison would be.
If your at a 1:1 at 24000 lbs doing 24 knots that is impressive.
 

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Just my 2 cents you build a boat with power and fuel range and you would have the ultimate machine. People are looking at the morgan bay for this very reason.

I was going to ask about the Morgan Bay hulls when you brought it up. Their latest numbers seemed impressive and even hard to believe. Looking at doing a build sometime in the next two years as well. BTW, I was trolling home next to Odessy/Sara B about two weeks ago now. She looked great, especially getting back up to cruise to the long trek home.
 

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If your at a 1:1 at 24000 lbs doing 24 knots that is impressive.
24knts has to be perfect conditions. 23 knots at 2000 is average but yes, I’m at 1:1. Makes it easy to figure out fuel burn for a canyon trip.
 

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Lou you will see the light when you go for a ride on my boat the NB does not compare to the ride of the Flowers hull. The NB may be a hair faster but the ride is better on the Spencer designed Flowers hull.
 

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Lou you will see the light when you go for a ride on my boat the NB does not compare to the ride of the Flowers hull. The NB may be a hair faster but the ride is better on the Spencer designed Flowers hull.
I am looking forward to it John. To be honest I have never heard one person complain about the ride on a NB in any aspect. If someone had a complaint or could point to a draw back in the nb id love to actually hear it. I have been lucky enough to ride on a lot of boats. What gary has created with that morgan bay hull has set a new bar. Maybe the 38 nb deserves some of that credit. Maybe spencer deserves some of the credit because without the 36 the 38 may have never have been so good. But gary is the guy who made the mb come to life. Now he has two sizes and guys are selling their vikings and buying these hulls. That does not happen every day.
 
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Viking is putting the D13 into their 44’ models now. That says something to me about the engine.
A lot of commercial boats down here who want to speed are dropping Volvos in. By commercial I mean diving, dolphin looking, snorkeling etc.

Those boats will probably wind up doing. 1500 a year I guess


I really wanted a 40 foot HandH with a D13 in it. Then I went to 838 with a D 11...

Finally abandon the whole build prospect.

I’ll tell you one thing, if anybody ever wants to build a boat and wants it normal, And wants to talk to normal people.... Folks at H&H can’t be beat
 
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I am looking forward to it John. To be honest I have never heard one person complain about the ride on a NB in any aspect. If someone had a complaint or could point to a draw back in the nb id love to actually hear it. I have been lucky enough to ride on a lot of boats. What gary has created with that morgan bay hull has set a new bar. Maybe the 38 nb deserves some of that credit. Maybe spencer deserves some of the credit because without the 36 the 38 may have never have been so good. But gary is the guy who made the mb come to life. Now he has two sizes and guys are selling their vikings and buying these hulls. That does not happen every day.
Lou I was just trying to get you going. No worries.
 

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Lou I was just trying to get you going. No worries.
Just cutting thru RI sound on the way down to Bayside in Conn. Beautiful day. Im sure your boat is going to be tough to beat with all those ideas you got. I might have to steal one or two. That drop window in the back is very cool. I am looking forward to a ride.
 

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Just cutting thru RI sound on the way down to Bayside in Conn. Beautiful day. Im sure your boat is going to be tough to beat with all those ideas you got. I might have to steal one or two. That drop window in the back is very cool. I am looking forward to a ride.
I like boat rides tooo.....;):cool:
 

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So im down in the mystic. Lots of nice DE boats in here. Never been in here before. Beautiful area. Came across this one boat that kind of followed us around. Very cool little boat not sure what it is. Any guess?

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