project boat

[29chawk]

Couple weeks ago I was given this boat its called a ''lindsey'' cant find much info on it, anyone know about them? built in 1984 solid glass 28'X 10'4 long fiberglass keel, round bilge, flat in the stern. has a cat 3208, twin disk tran. 1 3/4 shaft 24'' wheel. its a beast of a little boat. I completely gutted the boat putting a new deck in, going to swap the cat for a 6bt 300hp, and i want build a lobster style pilot house on her. So I have rebuilt about 4 or so boats new decks fish holds exc. but never constructed a house from scratch im assuming they are built in a mold from the factory. has anyone here used a composite material and formed up a house and just glassed it and faired it out? was thinking 1/2 coosa and some 1708 but a little concerened about getting good lines on her. heres a couple pics of the rig.

 

[F/V First Team]

Holy 90 degree elbows Batman!

You will probably want something that can be bent fairly easily for your house to get the proper lines and style that you're looking for. Glass one side for the interior and you can fasten it to a grid-work that has your angles and curves you desire, then just trim up the exterior, glass, fair and paint. Remove the grid-work from the inside, glass your seams, fair and paint. Fairly straight forward.

 

[29chawk]

this guy liked his 90's thats for sure. Grid system huh like wood framed 1x2's? I think i get the idea. thanks

 

[F/V First Team]

Just something to give the panels support while you get the shape that you want. I've tried telling panels to stay in place, quite sternly too, didn't work. Panels are like puppies with ADD, easily distracted and don't like to stay in one place for too long. If you go with a traditional cored panel, either balsa or foam, you can have a smooth interior (if you lay the panels up on a casting table) and then all you have to do is notch the sides, join the fiberglass with some tapes, bed in a slightly thinner core material and then fiberglass the exterior seam. Just a thought.

 

[29chawk]

I got ya, yeah that makes sense, I guess i would be wrestling with the panels and probally lose to. Thanks for your insight

 

[Badlatitude]

Id try the stich and glue method. We built teo 20ft skiffs this way and it is a very easy and sturdy way to build with out having overly heavy support beams adding to your weight above the water line

 

[GoodChance]

Wow. Great project. First, I'd keep the Cat. That looks to be a 3208t and can range in hp from 300 to 320. Great engine. Smooth, quiet and powerful albeit heavy.

You have a long way to go. You might want to reference my rebuild project on noreast.com. Look for a 35 Duffy rebuild taht was documented over there in 2007-2009.

 

[29chawk]

" stitch and glue method'' can you tell me more about it, not familiar with the terminology. definietly want to keep the weight aloft down I will be drift fishing alot. considered keeping the 3208t 320hp just seems like alot of extra weight, and the footprint seems to be quite bigger than the b series engines, I heard they are on the thirsty side aswell. I will check out that rebuild thread thanks

 

[petrel]

3208 at 320 hp is a great engine. Might be bigger, but changing power is a lot of work and expense. Given the choice, I would rather have the CAT than the B. By comparison, the B is loud and it's not so smooth. Could be worth a few dollars a day in fuel for less noise and shake. I can't imagine there would be a huge difference in fuel economy, but I could be wrong and it would not be the first time....

 

[Badlatitude]

" stitch and glue method'' can you tell me more about it, not familiar with the terminology. definietly want to keep the weight aloft down I will be drift fishing alot. considered keeping the 3208t 320hp just seems like alot of extra weight, and the footprint seems to be quite bigger than the b series engines, I heard they are on the thirsty side aswell. I will check out that rebuild thread thanks

Im having a hard time putting construction methods into words. I guess It would be. Cut pieces of marine plywood or choosen core material to their intended specs. wet them out individually. then start building. bonding them in place, assembling using drilled holes and zip ties. fillet the corners then tab them togather with glass tape. wet out and mat the whole structure.

Im pretty sure that wasnt a good explination but in a nutshell thats it. you basically for go any perminant framing aside from bedded in structural supports. Kind of opposite of how the 47 dixson wheel house was made. Let me see if I can dig up assembly photos my friend took of the boats being built

 

[Badlatitude]

 

[Badlatitude]

Its tough too. My Old man got in a boating accident in the skiff. He was ejected. No one was injured

 

[Eastporter]

Do you leave the zip ties in and fiberglass over? Great looking boat- you should be proud. I'm glad nobody got hurt with the boat parking itself on top of your boat. That must have been a little scary for both parties involved.

 

[F/V First Team]

The cable ties, or metal twists, just get lopped off and smoothed over. If there is some left below the fillet that's fine, because it's already covered up. The fillet will hold the shape while the glass cures.

Also, how the hell did that happen? Have to imagine it happened in slightly deeper water and was just dragged over to shore, glad they were alright. Looks like a good construction job though, that plastic bottle can't be light.

 

[Badlatitude]

The channel down in FL is very narrow and the markers are poles. My father came across the flats and should have kept going and avoided the narrow busy channnel but he didnt.

The boat was built for a jet and has a prop on it. She slipped sideways ( strakes have since been added!) hip checked a pole, ejected my old man and his dog. my step mother got snapped down onto the deck. between the walk gunnel and the console. The other boat T boned it and if it wasnt for the build quality (Huge thanks to my buddy Steve for that one!) she would have been dead. Hell if we didnt put walk gunnels on this hull she probably would have been dead. Super scary shit. Even worse was thoose photos got posted on a FL board I used to frequent BEFORE I got a call from my parrents. Their phones went into the drink.

 

[Badlatitude]

FIVE thousand dollars in damage to the plastic POS lol ....... Some how the " Salvage/Tow boat" guys did more damage to the two boats then the accident!


ETA enough about the boat and accident. I posted the pics to give him an idea of stitch and glue and the quality one can achieve. I did not intend to hijack the OPs thread with this.

 

[tunaorlater]

That's a cool ass flats boat! Good to hear everyone was ok.

 

[29chawk]

dam, That sucks at least everyones ok and the boat looked to fair well. That zip tie method looks like a good idea. Ive seen hot glue used in some situations too.

 

[Badlatitude]

dam, That sucks at least everyones ok and the boat looked to fair well. That zip tie method looks like a good idea. Ive seen hot glue used in some situations too.

Wood flour and resin were used in our application. Next one is going to be a piroge for ducking in swamps