Question about best dinghy for a new boat

[dmk]

Not sure if this is what you want but, we are close.

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I have a dinghy, just looking for davits for lofting it up and transporting it. Thanks

 

[Quik Fix 16]

Posting question to hayesdvm since Brooksie mentioned it.

 

[dmk]

Posting question to hayesdvm since Brooksie mentioned it.

Got it

 

[CaseyMarie]

Quick points on Hypalon vs PVC inflatables; first of all, understand that an inflatable boat is a disposable boat. PVC fabric will break down over time when exposed to UV, but the seams can be welded/thermo-bonded, which means less likely to leak. Hypalon fabric can not be welded/thermobonded, so seams have to be glued. The glue breaks down over time and starts to leak. Both boats will end up in a dumpster eventually.

Most people are quick to recommend Hypalon over PVC because Hypalon lasts longer than PVC. This is true, but Hypalon is on average about twice the money as PVC. Personally I would rather spend half the money twice as often on PVC. In the end you have spent the same amount of money, but you have a new boat twice as often, which is also usually under warranty for the first few years or so.

If you do buy a PVC boat, to combat the UW rays, I recommend keeping it covered when not in use. A PVC boat looks dirty when the fabric is breaking down from UV. There for if you protect it from UV, it will look cleaner/better for much longer.

There's my two cents...

 

[Quik Fix 16]

And fiberglass lasts longer than you.

 

[Quik Fix 16]

Watertender on Eastern NC craigslist in Lil Washington.

 

[Alisske]

Hi Mark- I have a 35 Duffy; similar in profile to the Black Cove. I have tried all sorts of dinghies over the years. There are of course trade offs with each one. I have had RIBs and straight up Inflatables.
The last one I had was a AB 9AL. It lasted 9 years of the stern of my boat using Saint Croix Davits. The small gas outboards are fine; but if not used enough can be difficult due the carburetors not liking todays blend of fuel. That said I recently purchased a 12 foot Point Defiance skiff. Being fiberglass and carbon fiber it is light. 135 lbs. I also don't have to worry about a punctured tube or the degradation of the fabric due to UV. I also just looks super good and appeals to the sensibilities Downeast boat owners have. It rows very well and also has a sail rig. I have it powered by a Torqeedo 1103. Runs silent, no gas; no mantenance oil changes etc. I also like it as it comes off the stern in there parts; which helps my back. The Point Defiance goes thru the water very well, the range is about 25 miles on a full charge with 3.8knots. At 4.5 knots the range is about 12nm.
The PD is not as stable as a RIB. I quickly adjusted to that.

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That port defiance looks great. One thing to add, it thaat hardshells can be rowed. Its nice to hop in for short hauls and just row. The PD looks like it rows well (shape of hull and “kick” at the aft of the boat)

I have always had a hardshell. A 12 sturdee dory is also a nice choice. Its more stable with a flat bottom, but wont row as well. I have a 10 sturdee. Rows nice. Tows great (doing 16knts in pic). Light weight.

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[ARC]

Check out Takacat. Far better fabric and workmanship then any mid range boats. Also never hold water so the boat is alway dry.

 

[islander]

That port defiance looks great. One thing to add, it thaat hardshells can be rowed. Its nice to hop in for short hauls and just row. The PD looks like it rows well (shape of hull and “kick” at the aft of the boat)

I have always had a hardshell. A 12 sturdee dory is also a nice choice. Its more stable with a flat bottom, but wont row as well. I have a 10 sturdee. Rows nice. Tows great (doing 16knts in pic). Light weight.

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I did take a look at the Sturdee. Nice boat. In the end the Point Defiance was easier to get here on the west coast.

 

[05bill]

Hi Mark- I have a 35 Duffy; similar in profile to the Black Cove. I have tried all sorts of dinghies over the years. There are of course trade offs with each one. I have had RIBs and straight up Inflatables.
The last one I had was a AB 9AL. It lasted 9 years of the stern of my boat using Saint Croix Davits. The small gas outboards are fine; but if not used enough can be difficult due the carburetors not liking todays blend of fuel. That said I recently purchased a 12 foot Point Defiance skiff. Being fiberglass and carbon fiber it is light. 135 lbs. I also don't have to worry about a punctured tube or the degradation of the fabric due to UV. I also just looks super good and appeals to the sensibilities Downeast boat owners have. It rows very well and also has a sail rig. I have it powered by a Torqeedo 1103. Runs silent, no gas; no mantenance oil changes etc. I also like it as it comes off the stern in there parts; which helps my back. The Point Defiance goes thru the water very well, the range is about 25 miles on a full charge with 3.8knots. At 4.5 knots the range is about 12nm.
The PD is not as stable as a RIB. I quickly adjusted to that.

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like to see it on your st croix davits please ?

 

[islander]

like to see it on your st croix davits please ?

I am waiting for the boat vendor to ship me a spreader bar. The original dinghy, the AB9AL had a distance between pickup points of 58 inches. The new dinghy the PD has a distance that is different than that. The answer is a spreader bar. Otherwise I will have to move the Davits outboard to align with the pickup points. I may have to do that, as I have been patiently waiting for the spreader bar.

 

[andy65]

I have a 10’ Portabote on Martek davits on a Northern Bay 36. Very pleased. The dinghy doesn’t obstruct the view when sitting in the aft deck - important to me. The davits are offset so a portion of the platform is available. Portabote is so light I can raise it with one hand. Silly thing planes on 3.5 hp. Martek was a pleasure to work with.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Hello Everyone,

After much looking and thinking about what boat we wanted, we have decided on getting a Back Cove 41, as we have loved the look of these boats for years. We live in eastern NC (not exactly Maine or lobster country), but we love the water and wanted a boat to do weekends out at Cape Lookout or perhaps do trips in and around the inland coastal waters of NC. And in a few years when I retire, I wanted a boat that we could do the Loop with, if we are up for that adventure and Corona virus had run its course.

We currently have a 21 foot 2012 BW Montauk, which we have bought when we had a place at Atlantic Beach. We kept it down there and it was a great compromise between a skiff and a deep-V hull for the waters around MHC, Beaufort, Harker's Island and the Cape. Now we have moved to Washington, NC and still use the boat on nice days, but wanted something for cooler weather and for weekend trips.

I had been looking at trawlers, but they are just too slow to get anywhere from our home base in Washington, and I am not retired yet so time is an issue. So, we got interested in Back Coves and also looked at Sabres but I was attracted to the simplicity of the single engine of the Back Cove and wasn't sure about the pods for our area.

So, to the point of the post: we will need a dinghy to get to shore if we weekend at the Cape (or anchor out anywhere else and want to go ashore) and I am searching for advice. I have seen the lifts, but they are very expensive. We don't want to take up the entire swim platform, if possible. Anyone with a similar boat that can share their setup and what they like or would do differently given the chance, I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,
Mark

Hi Mark, Your preferred pronoun for a dingy is 'we'. All I can say is that I picked my first 2 dingys for 'me', and those were mistakes. The comfort of your sig other is really up there on a dingy.

 

[TCL]

Have to say that these boats have me lookingcritically at my inflatable

Offshore Cruising Tenders. Dry, Light and Stable cruising tenders

Sweet Back Cove! Engine access is actually amazing on those boats. Please post more pics!

Those tenders look cool but pricey.

 

[islander]

I just went thru this analysis. I wanted something light weight and a dinghy I could also row. After careful analysis I selected a Gig Harbor (12 foot) Point Defiance. It is a classic traditional dinghy. It will last forever. It is not as stable as a RIB, but stable enough my wife is able to get in and out. It only requires a small engine which was another plus. It rows with ease if I want to do that. The boat weighs 135 lbs and I have a Torqeedo electric 3Hp engine. The range at 3.7knots is about 35 miles.

 

[lake erie traveler]

Congrats on your purchase, very nice boats. It seems to me that you will be the most happy with a rigid inflatable, but that will mean a lifting rig of some sort, there are lots of them out there but none of the good ones are inexpensive. You have enough beam for a 12ft one rigged on the swim platform, that is the obvious choice from my perspective. The only downside is your desire to not clutter up the swim platform, which is understandable; you should bite the bullet and get a rig set up to easily deploy the boat and motor so that it is not a struggle, that way you will enjoy doing it and use it more often or even just drop the boat in and tie it along side so that you can access the swim platform for other uses while at anchor or in a slip. The SeaWise system works really well. I have used it and have some cruising friends that love it. The dinghy is up out of the water, set well back so that you can use the swim platform and the motor rotates up off the transom and is stored securely as it is hoisted.
Home - Sea Wise Davit System

My choice for my uses is used less often but for more purposes, I like to row and sail so I built a two piece high performance boat called a PT11, it is 11 feet long and 4 feet wide assembled. Each piece weighs 40 pounds. It can take a two horse engine and do 6 knots easily but it is not as stable and won't carry as much cargo as an inflatable. I store mine on the aft deck, it takes up a 4'x6' space when nested on deck. It runs really well with an electric motor such as the electric paddle. PT Eleven Nesting Dinghy home page

You might not get a lot of responses to your quandary on this forum. You might try a trawler forum for more responses. Have fun.

Double thumbs up on the SeaWise davit system, super easy launch and recovery
Very stable to jump in and out of. Kind of adds Extra room to the swim platform when anchored out.
Definitely for a RIB