Repower Outboard Options?

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There's nothing wrong with my motor. But after looking at some outboards lately.... I'm curious what's the 225 or 250 of choice these days? I've always had evinrudes with no complaints.

And... A new Suzuki is about. $17000. You can buy a Carolina Skiff new with motor for same price rigged....

But I love my Privateer...

Thoughts?
 

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I've spent a lot of time on a friends rig with a 225 Honda. Its been a great motor. I do think Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki are pretty much comparable. I'd go with whoever has the best service department locally.
 

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From what I have seen (and experienced) the Yamahas are the best. Yamaha and Honda last the longest, while Suzuki seems to die a little earlier. Don't know if you'll be putting the kind of hours on the motor that I am talking about (4000+hrs) on your privateer though. I've seen some bad things with etecs, and cannot tell you of ANY that I know of that are over the 2000hr mark, but I'm biased soo;). Is it a 22 privateer? 24?
 

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they are alll junk, the big 4s yamahas don't last, the hondas have no power, and the suzukis keep stripping drive shafts, or the gear box that is on the bottom of the power head. The guys that use them here are getting 3000-6500 hours out of them (all brands) which really isn't terrible except for the $20k price tag every 3-5 years.
 

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Love the ETECs as well. Nothing but power. I find that my 90 could be a little quiet but then again its only three cylinders. I can't even HEAR the 225s/250's though.
 

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I think if you are planning on running 3000-6000 hours in 5 years that you might consider a straight inboard no? Service and parts for an outboard (especially a new one) would be outrageous compared to any inboard. In this light I think anyone would agree that new outboards could be viewed as junk. That said, I would take any new 4 stroke over any 2 stroker from the 80's.

the guys that are running the outboards need the shallow draft to get in their creek. as far as outboards nothing beats the 2 stroke 150 yamaha
 

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duxbait: Gary has a the 24. They never technically made a 22. They had the 21' roamer II. Technically if you measured the boat is was prob closer to 22'.

Gary: you know i have the 24 renegade with a F225. Cruises 17-25knts. Full throttle gives the boat 33knts. We had twin 90 johnson 2strokes, before repowering. The f225 pushes the boat about 2-3 knts faster then the twins did at full throttle.

As far as what brand engine to buy, yamaha has been great to me and I have nothing bad to say about e-tec's.
 

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the guys that are running the outboards need the shallow draft to get in their creek. as far as outboards nothing beats the 2 stroke 150 yamaha

Exactly, need the outboard because of draft, space limits, what the market offers ext. And yes putting 1000hrs a year on an outboard sucks, you know your just gonna have to replace it every 5 years. That being said, with those kinds of hours the unbelievable difference in fuel efficiency makes the 4 stroke a no brainer over a two stroke...IMO. The two strokes are lighter, more powerful, simpler, ect... but the fours are getting better. Check out the new 200 from Yamaha. Weighs less then their 150. And my 2000 johnson ocean pro burned TWICE what my 140 suzuki burns.... but Johnson had better hole shot, and 50lbs lighter.

I've seen some good deals on used ones, but if you put lots of hours on your motor, nothing beats knowing what you have from the start with new. Suzuki will give you six years of warranty
 

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duxbait: Gary has a the 24. They never technically made a 22. They had the 21' roamer II. Technically if you measured the boat is was prob closer to 22'.

Gary: you know i have the 24 renegade with a F225. Cruises 17-25knts. Full throttle gives the boat 33knts. We had twin 90 johnson 2strokes, before repowering. The f225 pushes the boat about 2-3 knts faster then the twins did at full throttle.

As far as what brand engine to buy, yamaha has been great to me and I have nothing bad to say about e-tec's.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe you don't want the 200... Seems like more power would help. From what I've seen these boats use the extra power when they are heavy and there is a following sea.
 

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Exactly, need the outboard because of draft, space limits, what the market offers ext. And yes putting 1000hrs a year on an outboard sucks, you know your just gonna have to replace it every 5 years. That being said, with those kinds of hours the unbelievable difference in fuel efficiency makes the 4 stroke a no brainer over a two stroke...IMO. The two strokes are lighter, more powerful, simpler, ect... but the fours are getting better. Check out the new 200 from Yamaha. Weighs less then their 150. And my 2000 johnson ocean pro burned TWICE what my 140 suzuki burns.... but Johnson had better hole shot, and 50lbs lighter.

I've seen some good deals on used ones, but if you put lots of hours on your motor, nothing beats knowing what you have from the start with new. Suzuki will give you six years of warranty

you can't compare a johnson with anything....they burned fuel like no one else could, but at least they had the pookey to back it up.

those who ran the 150 yamahas generally got over 5k hours out of them, and they were only $7500 new, that's my biggest problem with all the new motors is the damn price.
 

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Why not a 75 or so? Boat is that small it would still move at a decent clip and the engine would cost a hell of a lot less every 5 years.

No idea what kind of fishing or run you have to make but 20k every 5 years is a lot for engines. How about a jack shafted diesel I/O haha.

i am running a stern drive, 5.7 volvo with sx drive. it is a lot more maintenance but at least you can fix things on it. sometimes a hour run to our first pot a 75 wouldn't cut it.
 

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I detest an I/O but it would make more sense that an outboard (to me anyway) for anything over 100 hrs a year because of what you said- its a real engine you can work on with a small bag of tools instead of a computer. Jack shaft would get it to typical engine box location and let you work on all sides of it.

i was real real scared of it when i bought it, i heard nothing but nightmare stories, but so far so good. i think they are a whole lot better than they used to be, i have learned a lot about them the volvo sx and sxa are good drives, the mercruiser bravo 2 is bullet proof, and the mercruiser alpha drive is a total joke. i think that is where a lot of the bad reputation comes from.
 

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