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The rule needs to be fair to all citizens of the US. Not a select few. Not having one weekend day is BS.
 

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By doing that it will make the fishery a commercial fishery, which it is. By having a weekend day it just allows for Rec fisherman with a commercial license go kill a fish. If they care about the actual commercial fisherman and what’s best for the fishery that’s how it should be. Along with closing it up in the middle of summer and not allowing charter boats to sell fish while having a charter on board.
 

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Your way off base bro. You want more quota and less to the balance of the permit holders. Go watch a show and get $17 a pound!!
 

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Not really making it a commercial fishery that you can make money with. Just making it a fishery that guys who don't need the money and have time at their disposal can go out and kill fish cause they have the ability to fish any day and weather while the guys who depend on the extra money and are working at their other jobs until they have the weather and timing to fish just get shut out by an rfd.
 

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Yeah. I’ve been at it since 1981. Work hard and fish hard. Too many ads holes out there
 

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If you are gonna have RFDs I think squeezing out the weekend only warriors makes sense - let those who prioritize it in their life do so.

I think given the way the fishery is run now, our quota now, RFDs make sense...

But even if I didn't like them, if you are gonna try to create a fair RFD scheme, ending the weekend fishery does make it harder on those who prioritize another day job, who only go when it's convenient, and those folks obviously value the fishery less than someone who is going to orient their life around it.
 

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It’s no longer a commercial fishery. Mexico and Australia ended that. It’s a low dollar fish. It’s a hobby

That is kinda true but I'd say more accurately, it's no longer a big $$ commercial fishery.

This season some guy and his best buddy will catch 10 fish inshore in the striper boat he paid 20K for 5 years ago. He will burn $1500 in fuel, maybe another $1500 in other stuff, and cash 20K in checks. Ask that guy, it's a commercial fishery and it's hard to argue it's not.

The lobsterman that heads over to the flag at the end of his day here and there, catches a few, same deal, that $$ is gonna be appreciated.

If you think you are going to drop 500K on a boat then make a living at it, nah - not a commercial fishery.

It's very akin to stripers IMO, you gotta like to do it, you gotta be a boat owner for another reason, you gotta live near the fish, but at that point it can be supplemental income. Or another analogy - nobody can buy a new 1 ton and make a living plowing around here, costs are too high and the $$ isn't gonna work out, but if you are gonna own the truck for another reason then the cost of the plow can be a reasonable investment.
 

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That is kinda true but I'd say more accurately, it's no longer a big $$ commercial fishery.

This season some guy and his best buddy will catch 10 fish inshore in the striper boat he paid 20K for 5 years ago. He will burn $1500 in fuel, maybe another $1500 in other stuff, and cash 20K in checks. Ask that guy, it's a commercial fishery and it's hard to argue it's not.

The lobsterman that heads over to the flag at the end of his day here and there, catches a few, same deal, that $$ is gonna be appreciated.

If you think you are going to drop 500K on a boat then make a living at it, nah - not a commercial fishery.

It's very akin to stripers IMO, you gotta like to do it, you gotta be a boat owner for another reason, you gotta live near the fish, but at that point it can be supplemental income. Or another analogy - nobody can buy a new 1 ton and make a living plowing around here, costs are too high and the $$ isn't gonna work out, but if you are gonna own the truck for another reason then the cost of the plow can be a reasonable investment.
Well said
 

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8-10mt a day on weekdays, 20-30mt on Sundays. Gimme a break that shoulda been stopped years ago. Its the only option
 

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In the 90s when we had a lot more quota, we would land in a two day period lots of tonnage and it was never an issue unloading it and the buyers could handle it easy. Now we don't have quota and we have days off and we put less fish on the dock and the buyers get overwhelmed. The first thing that needs to happen is to change the way we hand out these permits like diner mints. No permit should be issued without that vessel being able to prove they have the required safety gear. That will wipe out half the permits most of which are guys fishing on weekends. The second thing is we should be given more quota. That in itself might make available more buyers handling more daily volume.
 

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2 per day, MONTHLY quotas, commercial exam decal BEFORE you can apply for the permit. buyers should "grade" the boats there buying from, for its ability to care, clean, store, and ice the fish.

has the fish been dragged over the rail, against a cleat, been laying on the outboard rigging tube for the ride in with only the ice from the beer cooler, and a spiderman blanket on it?

or has it been slid through a tuna door, put in a bonar box, or built in fish hold, with 500 lbs of ice
 
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