Rudder Shoe

[Bill]

Looking at my boat Bill D noticed that the rudder is in direct contact with the keel. Is there supposed to be a shoe in there or is this the way its supposed to be? I havent pulled it out yet to see if its worn down

 

[F/V First Team]

There should be a skeg bearing in there somewhere, maybe they just used the fiberglass skeg as its own bearing?

 

[Raider Ronnie]

Bill,
I took notice of your rudder when I was there.
The rudder appears to be glass over a solid stainless shaft.
Maybe Travis or someone else can chime in on how they pin the rudder to the shaft, but yours is loose (spins from the shaft ) Im guessing it moves 10-20 degrees back & forth without the shaft moving.

 

[j dandy]

I think there should be a brass bushing set in the skeg for the shaft to ride in
the shaft should have round bar tits welded to the shat , but on glass rudders the glass gets worn just my oppinion, hope this helps.

 

[j dandy]

bill in looking again i do see ashoe on the skeg it may bo worn out you should see some of the shaft above the shoe..
hard to see in pics.

 

[Bill]

Ok thanks. Pretty much just wanted to make sure something was a miss there . It's all gonna come out to repack etc. I am assuming the brass shoe is glassed in. Ill look at it more tomorrow to see what's up.

 

[j dandy]

Bill if the shoe looks ok what you could do is take a peace of round stock about 3/8 thick just to get the ruder up off of the shoe, the way it is could give a chatter noise underway.

 

[F/V First Team]

Bill,
I took notice of your rudder when I was there.
The rudder appears to be glass over a solid stainless shaft.
Maybe Travis or someone else can chime in on how they pin the rudder to the shaft, but yours is loose (spins from the shaft ) Im guessing it moves 10-20 degrees back & forth without the shaft moving.

I'll paw around in the archives, see if I can't dig one out and snap some pictures of it for you guys. Might be able to find the plug for a mold too.

 

[captainlarry84]

Bill if the shoe looks ok what you could do is take a peace of round stock about 3/8 thick just to get the ruder up off of the shoe, the way it is could give a chatter noise underway.

I pressed a cutlass bearing into my lower shoe. It work great. You may also want to put a stop collar on the upper shaft, inside the boat to keep the rudder off the shoe.

 

[lobstercatcher]

Bill some of the guys have put a Teflon bushing in the worn seat and brings it all back to what it should be. The Teflon out lasts the seat. Id be more concerned with the rudder moving on the shaft.

 

[jwalka51]

I pressed a cutlass bearing into my lower shoe. It work great. You may also want to put a stop collar on the upper shaft, inside the boat to keep the rudder off the shoe.

If you are going to do that, then make sure to put a nylon bushing in between the rudder stuffing box nut and the stop collar. Otherwise you will just end up with metal on metal contact there instead.

 

[traditions]

Electrolysis will eat out the pins in the rudder.If the rudder moves and the shaft doesn't,I would say its time for a new rudder.By the looks of the wheel,I would not be surprised if this was the case.Some times there is a small wafer of shaft under the rudder shaft to keep it off the skeg.

 

[F/V First Team]

Wind some new pins in there. Glass them over if you want. Drill and a hammer, a bit of bronze and you're in business.

 

[Ld Marine Products]

Rudder

Hi guys if the rudder is moving at All that's not good. ! The way I have Always have done it. make new rudder and bottom bearing its made from ss with a bushing. There should be no play what so ever. Thanks Luis
LD MARINE. 978-314-1353

 

[captainlarry84]

Electrolysis will eat out the pins in the rudder.If the rudder moves and the shaft doesn't,I would say its time for a new rudder.By the looks of the wheel,I would not be surprised if this was the case.Some times there is a small wafer of shaft under the rudder shaft to keep it off the skeg.

Indeed I did not notice buy you wheel is done. It has electrolysis. Is that block on the skeg tided into anything. You need to bond you vessel.

 

[Brooksie]

Use a piece of cutlass bearing for a skeg/shoe bushing and make sure there is a hole for sand to drain out through the bottom of the skeg/shoe

 

[Ld Marine Products]

There should be a s.s whith a Teflon bushing in the skeg it usually gets glassed in the pins on the shaft are not good is should be welded I have done many set ups envy have issues just my 2 cents. Luis