- Sep 1, 2011
- Boat Make
- Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign
Google Bo Palmer and Shamrock boats.
You'll read for hours about the shoddy craftsmanship and people that company screwed over.
I wouldn't buy one, especially a newer one, even though they are out of business.
Defiance boats is the new Palmer Company, another one to stay away from.
that' a dangerous place - lot's of "back yard engineering" suggested -
here's a classic piece of advice given by a member - "his way of repairing a thru hull he was going to remove from his boat,was to use a carrage bolt - with a large washer,fill the hole with 3m5200,install another flat washer,followed by a nut - i kid you not !" imagine that ? this guy was serious too !
here's more:a moderator on that site - a gentleman who believes he has a vast and unlimited knowledge,he had this to say previous about using tinned marine grade wire "no solder dipped marine wire for me",same gentleman who made a claim concerning epoxy and polyester resins - claimed his stringers were filled with an epoxy,but the fumes were terrible - epoxy has no noxious fumes,clearly his vast knowledge of fiberglass isn't very vast at all - his knowledge of electrical systems is even less...
this is advice given by a member to another member,to "jury rig" his leaking oil pan:
"How to salvage your season assuming the leak is from the oil panâ€¦
Sorry to hear about the oil leak. Here is what I did to buy time so an oil pan leak could be repaired during the off season:
1. Removed the drain hose (if you have one) which is notorious for leaking depending upon the brand. (Also gave me a fresh oil change for the season.) Installed an automotive style drain plug (with same threads) and cleaned the bottom with acetone to get to the paint. Next covered the leak area of the pan, which was just below the drain plug, with a two-part gas tank repair epoxy, which can be found at any automotive parts house.
2. By cutting, lowered the sides of a plastic dishpan and suspended it under the oil pan with bungee cords. This trapped the oil allowing it to be dumped later. Bilge stayed perfectly clean and thus bilge pump never pumped oil overboard.
If the above procedure works for you, and another oil change is needed the oil can be sucked out through the dip stick. Fairly normal procedure, especially for older marine engines. "
gentleman has a fuel contamination problem - here's a suggestion of how to dispose of the old contaminated fuel
"For air cooled engines I would blend with 89-87 not 93. I would put it in my sprayer and use it like round up myself. "
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here's a gentleman,his ship was beached - it filled with water - the gear,as in transmission was submerged - this gentleman's advice is,as follows...
"Pull the starter and flush it out good and you'll save yourself 100 bucks. Get the engine hot and then change the oil and change the tranny oil again. Flush the electronics with fresh water and spray with WD-40 or something that displaces water. Assuming you clean everything with soap and water, you should be good to go. Check to make sure no water got into you gas tanks.If the vents were still above water, you should be ok. The starter won't die fast but the salt is a slow killer."
"flush the starter" ? it was submerged,in sea water,you're kidding,right ? there's a reason insurance companies pay out on submersion claims,it's because there's a problem with it,things will need to be replaced - due to submersion..."save 100 bucks",yep,more good advice...
the all time best advice is :
fill the pin holes and corroded spots of your aluminum fuel tank - fill those holes with marine tex,then wrap the tank in fiberglass matting - polyester resin - one member actually stated his insurance company asked him to do this...
now,after reading all what i typed above,and trust me,there's lot's more - just read that site,would anyone put anything anyone on that site stated to the test ?
there's even a guy on that site,he operates a tow boat service ,and makes the clairm he's a marine surveyor - claims to be an expert - same guy didn't know a 1.88:1 borg warner gear had an opposite shaft rotation as the input shaft - again,imagine that... i would sooner ask a preschool class for advice on a boat,versus asking anyone on that site - the level of stupidity and disregard for common sense is staggering...