Spray/Lifting Rail... 2 piece or one?

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  1. ErikT

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    Planning an install of Spray/Lifting rails our our 28 Crowley Beal and I am getting mixed reviews on one piece vs two. Generally cruise about 16 or 17 knots and the boat is very wet.

    Below are a few pics of what I am considering. What are the benefits or disadvantages of each? Please help me make the decision.
     

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    Two rails! For two different reasons. One provides lift. One controls water that turns into spray. A properly placed lifting rail with a traditionally place spray rail.
     
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    Looks like it would be a lot easier to install them separately than fight the turn of the bilge and deal with that long piece too. single piece certainly looks better to my eye but have to agree with Blitzen.
     
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    I think it's a lot about what the owner wants, I like the look of the one piece better as well, but everyone's got their own opinion.
     
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    I have an opinion but I have no choice either.
    The hull needs all the rails you can give her.
    What is hard to see is the lifting rail that runs from below the trunk cabin window to the stern about at the turn of the bilge.
    They are painted because the Big Cummins makes her sit so low in the water.
    I think one rail would look weird while doing a less efficient job.
    Good luck
     

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    I would go with a single rail. If you want smaller rails I would set them up like the ones on gomer, each rail has a purpose
     
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    This is a 35 Bruno. Obviously a different animal but stem to stern rail. Is it a spray rail that gives lift or a lifting rail that sprays?
    Just thought I would put up the aternative to two rails.
    Not sure you can go wrong. I do think the separate rails higher out of the water looks better but others would know better if one way works better than the other.
    I do know you will love the effect they have on you Crowley.
     
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    I think your picture fell off?
     
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    A spray rail and a lifting rail have two different functions as we know. My opinion is you should have both. The lift rail will get your bow up and out of the water and will get you out of the hole quicker. I think it is important to make sure your lift rail is forward of the front bulkhead. The spray rail has nothing to do with lifting the boat but sure comes in handy knocking down the water curling up the hull sides. Both working together will go a long way to keep your windshield dry.
     
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    Sorry John, I didn't read your post. We are saying the same thing. I think people get very confused when it comes to lifting rails. That white hull with the red stripe above is a beauty but that rail placement as a lifting rail is about as useful as tits on a bull. Also if your spray rail is going to dive below the waterline as shown, it's just going to be loaded up with growth after a month in the water and look like shit. The spray rail should terminate above the water line.
     
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    That is what happens when I try to post from my phone at work while doing too many other things. I frown on my guys playing with their phones at work. Serves me right.
    Now while in the recliner:
     

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    I am partial to the one piece like here on my Dad’s 38 YB. You want to place them right on the turn of the hull the flare up above the fore foot. Some people put them on so they throw the water out away from the hull. Some put them on what is considered “upside down” so they push the water down in theory generating lift. To know the best location for your hull spend some time on YouTube watching lobster boat race footage. There is a good chance you will see a couple 28 Crowley’s with lifting rails. I know there is a 33 Crowley (Misty) with them on the perfect spot.
     
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    32 Holland.jpg Here is another shot of dad’s boat and one of my brother’s 32 holland. We kept the rails low on my brothers boat.
     
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    Jerry love that picture. Should be on a calender
     
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    Thanks. You can’t tell but I am actually at the wheel of my dad’s boat.
     
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    Thought the same thing when I saw it. Great shot!
     
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    That Holland is running nice, not too bow proud.
     
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    265 hp John Deere. Bulkhead falls right between #2 and #3 cylinders. 1.77:1 ratio. He lobstered with that boat year round.
    She originally had a 502 Chevy in her.
     
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    Any more pics of the Holland, Jerry?
     
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    I don’t. If you hunt around the internet there are a few pics of her. He sold that boat back in 09. The new owner still races it once and a while. Also chases Tuna with it I believe.
     

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