Thinking of Rolling and Tipping

[CaptDave]

My gelcoat on Relentless is 11 years old, stained, faded a few cracks and needs a make over. I am thinking of sanding the hull, filling small cracks and dings and painting it with something that can be rolled and tipped. Any suggestions by anyone and who has done this before. Looking for advice especially with products.

Dave

 

[Blitzen]

Dave,
I have done it with good results with Awlgrip primer and top coat. Hardest part is controlling the environment and mixing the paint for that condition. If you can do that it is easy with 3 sets of hands to get excellent results.
Do it out of the sun and in calm conditions as the sun and wind will evaporate the thinners faster.
I have also used Interlux one part top coats with just a foam roller with nice results.

 

[Captlvb]

Have used Interlux Perfection with good results. As we all know the devil is in the details. I would think in the garage you have it in now should be great. Dealing with the environmental changes of cooling off at night, teh sun and wind could be eliminated which would be perfect. No dust or pollen either

 

[Raider Ronnie]

Dave
Mike P (Perfect Cs) rolled & tipped his 42 Dixon.
Maybe call & ask him about it and the results.

 

[Bill]

Ya Dave I did the interlux perfection as well..you cannot tell it was rolled, no seams etc..We tried the rolling and tipping but the tipping part make it look worse. wound up using a second dry roller to barely go over it and it worked out much better.. The weather is all that matters.. one of my coats I did, a god damn fog bank rolled through the driveway and stamped itself into the paint on the side it came though on, looked like someone sanded that side of the boat. whatever they reccomend for brushing thinners etc make sure you use them as it made a big difference. I think I did 2 coats of primer and 4 coats of perfection sanding with 220 between coats..

 

[WoundUpMarine]

I'm in the same boat, no pun intended. The previous owner paints something onto the faded gelcoat and its now chipping off of atleast 1/3 of the hull, looks horrible. I was thinking about having the entire boat soda-blasted, rub rail to keel, and starting from scratch. I was looking at the perfection the other day in west marine, looks like a good product

 

[petrel]

I have had good results using both Awl Grip and Alex Seal with small foam rollers, no tipping. Two part epoxy paint like they sell at Ace Hardware makes an excellent inexpensive primer.

 

[traditions]

First off is what kind of finish are you looking for.Awl grip and perfection give you a mirror finish,but prep work must be done to detail to get a super job,and with the price you dont want to screw it up.I have had good luck with Interlux Brightside rolling and tipping,and the cost is pretty reasonable and the job turned out pretty good.I was looking for a work boat finsh that if it was dinged up wouldnt be a bitch to fix.For what it cost in second year we just redid the whole boat and it was back to new.This was a white boat and that is one of the easiest colorres to work with.I have awlgrip on my boat and I dont think I would do it again.But I am talking work boats here ,but they still look nice.It all depends what you are looing for.All they do in Europe is roll and tip awlgrip.There are tricks to it and it can turn out perfect.My awlgrip is starting to blister in spots,and now I am told it is not waterproof .I think the paint job is about 6 years old.

 

[Helen L]

Talk to Joe at Mertons. He always has great advice and pointers.

 

[tashmoo2]

go to Classicseacraft.com and you will find lots of information about spraying, rolling/tipping, paints, etc. from some serious guys.

I would check out Signature paints too. Tom Fabula is very helpful man.
Problem with Awlgrip is fixing dings and scratches. You have to think about that when all those sinkers and fish start bouncing on deck.

Joe will probably tell you to gelcoat deck

 

[CaptDave]

Thanks Guys,

Lots of great information here and will compare both the Awl Grip and Interlux products. I was thinking about doing this next year and got thinking, hell I am already in a heated garage just do it. I am going to go to these sites, talk to tech reps adn still take all the advice I can have here. I appreciate it very much and by the time I am done with this the boat will be ready for a new owner.

2009 New Fuel tak
2011 New Inverter Heart Interface
New DC/AC Panel
New Pumps
John Deere 6076 AFM 30 Top End Overhaul
New Alternator, Starter and other Electrical Compnents
New Injectors
Rebuilt TD Reduction Gear
New Waste Water Tank
New Fresh Water Tank
New Hoses
New Electrical DC Wiring
New Rule General Purpose Washdown Pump
New Macerator Pump
New Electric Head
New Racor Primary Fuel Filter Assembly
2011 New Decks
New Starboard Side Fuel Tank
New Baitwell Below Deck 8o Gallon
New Propeller
New Side Sliding Window
New Composite Decks
New Paint on Hull

Will sell or trade for new Calvin Beal 36 or Young Brothers 38, yes with engines and complete

 

[unclefish]

myself and 1 other guy rolled and tipped 47 custom Carolina boat forward floor deck with awlgrip. It came out awesome. It was a bitch trying to keep a wet edge more the guys you have to help the better. The area was about 15 x 25 layed out perfect. Make sure you plan well.
extra brushes buy the good rollers so they don't melt figure your extra rags anything you can think of mix enuff paint. Try your engine box or something you can find first.

 

[Eastporter]

Very good experiences with Interlux Brightsides. Prep is the main factor as others suggested.

 

[Powderpro]

Very good experiences with Interlux Brightsides. Prep is the main factor as others suggested.

I'll second that. I liked using Interlux Brightside because it was easy to use and look real nice.

 

[Eastporter]

The best thing about one part paint is that you can touch up dings easily and quickly without the hassle of mixing two-part.