Thoughts on this 32 Holland?

Phoenix37

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My friend is looking to buy this 32. Its an 1985 with a 460hp Lugger located in NJ

Anybody familiar with the boat or thoughts on the engine etc? Seems like a big motor for this boat but it supposedly only does 24kts max. Ive been on Hollands that do that with 225 JDs

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That Lugger is a big block it displaces 11 liters a lot of iron but a good motor in my book!
 

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Phoenix37,nice lookin ..but i am not a fan of all that extra metal..cut it all off and gain some speed..lol
 

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Looks like a heavy boat with all that tower. I don't believe that hull was made to carry a lot of weight.
 

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Looks like a heavy boat with all that tower. I don't believe that hull was made to carry a lot of weight.


X2 looks like 10 lbs in a 5lb sack.
To much crap for a 32 Holland to carry!


P.S I once put a tower on a 38 H&H it RUINED the boat, it made that thing rock and roll in a lite sea where as before the tower it would have been fine.
When I see boats with stuff this high in the air I just smile
 
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Real pretty boat. I like the idea of more horsepower. You have the power when you need it but most of the time the engine isn't run hard and you'll get more hours out of it. Do you really need to cruise at 20 knots. Most days your probably not going to be able to run at that speed without getting beat up. Besides it's not how fast you get there but it's what you do when you get there. That Holland 32 is a great hull. I don't know what they're asking for it but if I was looking for a rig that size that would be at the top of my list!
 

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Phoenix37,nice lookin ..but i am not a fan of all that extra metal..cut it all off and gain some speed..lol
I dont disagree. Looks like someone decided put the Eiffel tower on top of the boat.... Im sure its going to mess up the center of gravity on the boat and cause it to rock like crazy but otherwise I like it....
 

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I'm no expert on these bluefin boats, but I noticed the additon of rear, lifting rails. A 32 holland with 460 hp should not need these. To my eye, that is strike one. Just sayin'.....
 

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Whats going on with the hard chine/lifting rail and keel configuration on this boat??

Good? Bad? Neither?? Anyone know the story? Is that typical Holland?

This is a prime example of what I've tried to make clear on several earlier posts. The fastest downeaster isn't the simple meshing of lifting surface, weight and horsepower but a complicated interaction between the three. Clearly, from a go fast standpoint, this hull is carrying too much weight. The chine extensions are an obvious attempt at creating more lifting surface but the speed quoted suggests that this didn't work. In my opinion, the only way that you'll add noticeable speed to this hull is to substantially reduce weight. Glenn has long argued that he isn't a fan of lifting rails and claims that his hulls don't need them.
 

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You have hit the nail directly on the head! A quick ride would tell the whole story! They are beautiful boats though.
 
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This is a prime example of what I've tried to make clear on several earlier posts. The fastest downeaster isn't the simple meshing of lifting surface, weight and horsepower but a complicated interaction between the three. Clearly, from a go fast standpoint, this hull is carrying too much weight. The chine extensions are an obvious attempt at creating more lifting surface but the speed quoted suggests that this didn't work. In my opinion, the only way that you'll add noticeable speed to this hull is to substantially reduce weight. Glenn has long argued that he isn't a fan of lifting rails and claims that his hulls don't need them.
Thank you Downeaster, you said what I was thinking, only better. :cool:
 

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This is a prime example of what I've tried to make clear on several earlier posts. The fastest downeaster isn't the simple meshing of lifting surface, weight and horsepower but a complicated interaction between the three. Clearly, from a go fast standpoint, this hull is carrying too much weight. The chine extensions are an obvious attempt at creating more lifting surface but the speed quoted suggests that this didn't work. In my opinion, the only way that you'll add noticeable speed to this hull is to substantially reduce weight. Glenn has long argued that he isn't a fan of lifting rails and claims that his hulls don't need them.
This is great info and confirms the initial concerns with this boat. She is carrying a ton of weight and hp and it still aint moving. I would think 460hp in a slimmed down Holland would be moving her in the mid 30s. Glad there is a forum like this with guys that know what their talking about.
 

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Downeaster says the chine extensions are to give lift ...how about if they were put to slow the roll also..did anyone notice the shoe put on there to get a bigger wheel on her??
 
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This boat had been ruined in my opinion, these particular design does not need all the extra. Only my opinion.
 
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