trap rope what rope do you like ??

[steveinak]

For the guys that fish/lobster full time what brand of rope do you like ? I use/sell only canidian Polysteel floating rope here for my shrimp traps. I know you guys can't use floating rope anymore but back when you could what did you use ?
Polysteel, Man Line, Highliner, Wellington Puritan, and i bet there are others. Anybody know where/what ropes they have at Ketchum Trap in New Bedford, i've been there and they had all kinds/sizes of oddball sized coils so that must be factory mill ends and overruns. I'm always looking for a better rope to use/sell here and most of the guys here don't have a clue about different ropes, they have only used that hard lay cable like stuff the king crab guys use, in my opinion its pure shit rope.

 

[lobstercatcher]

I use to like 3/8 Crow Rope Superhaul . The company changed hands so it might be Orein/ or something like that. It worked great on the 35 Duffy . The 38 Northern Bay with the upgraded hydaulics snaps superhaul way to easy so I changed 3/8 esterpro. Haven't snapped it yet.

7/16 just seems to big for me but all of that has worked without parting any lines.

 

[steveinak]

I use to like 3/8 Crow Rope Superhaul . The company changed hands so it might be Orein/ or something like that. It worked great on the 35 Duffy . The 38 Northern Bay with the upgraded hydaulics snaps superhaul way to easy so I changed 3/8 esterpro. Haven't snapped it yet.

7/16 just seems to big for me but all of that has worked without parting any lines.

Thanks for the info, we use all 5/16 here and i use esterpro for my buoylines, its nice stuff. I had a hard time busting polysteel last year when i was hung down good but i think all the stretch in the rope from fishing in 125 fathoms had something to do with it not busting too easy.

 

[Overkill]

Hy-liner works very good for me. I like the steel-liner best, good strength, low stretch and very quite in the hauler. Made in Maine not Canada.

 

[steveinak]

Hy-liner works very good for me. I like the steel-liner best, good strength, low stretch and very quite in the hauler. Made in Maine not Canada.

Is the company called Hyliner rope ?

 

[Overkill]

Is the company called Hyliner rope ?

Yes, Hyliner is the company name. They make sink and float rope in many different styles and colors. I prefer what they call steel liner it's not straight poly. Hamilton, Brooks Trap Mill and most suppliers around here carry it. I think they are in South Thomaston.

 

[steveinak]

Yes, Hyliner is the company name. They make sink and float rope in many different styles and colors. I prefer what they call steel liner it's not straight poly. Hamilton, Brooks Trap Mill and most suppliers around here carry it. I think they are in South Thomaston.

It must be like esterpro a blend of materials, i'll try and google them for a phone number, thanks for the info.

 

[traditions]

Steve,weve been using Tytan float rope.Started using it when poly went to shit.The stuff is strong ,but like you mentioned its kind of stiff like cable.For sink rope I use the estapro.I never liked the dan or man line for float because of its high friction,it tends to ball up and its hard to untie or untangle.I dont know if you can buy direct from Hyliner or not,you may have to go thru a dealer.The factory is 2 miles from my house.Alot of the poly now seems more like mono and its not very strong and wont take any chaffe.I have seen new poly cut right thru from another line when tangled together.Thats why I use the Tytan.I hate to buy foriegn rope,but I cant afford to be parting off new rope either.The poly we used to have would last forever,maybe thats why they cheapened it up.

 

[steveinak]

Steve,weve been using Tytan float rope.Started using it when poly went to shit.The stuff is strong ,but like you mentioned its kind of stiff like cable.For sink rope I use the estapro.I never liked the dan or man line for float because of its high friction,it tends to ball up and its hard to untie or untangle.I dont know if you can buy direct from Hyliner or not,you may have to go thru a dealer.The factory is 2 miles from my house.Alot of the poly now seems more like mono and its not very strong and wont take any chaffe.I have seen new poly cut right thru from another line when tangled together.Thats why I use the Tytan.I hate to buy foriegn rope,but I cant afford to be parting off new rope either.The poly we used to have would last forever,maybe thats why they cheapened it up.

Who makes tytan? is it Hyliner ? I'll have to call Hyliner and see if they will sell to me, i sell a couple/three pallet fulls a year so its a bit of poundage i'd be ordering. I know what you mean about the old poly rope we always bought black because it seemed to last the longest and it didn't burn in the sun when stored. Shame Lambeth still isn't in business that blue stuff they made was the nicest rope i ever had. The polysteel does seem quite strong so i might just stick with it.

 

[traditions]

The Tytan is made in India,and one of the the marine suppliers in the area carries thier products.They make all kinds of rope,I was at the deere tractor store and they sell Tytan for bailing hay,and I have seen lobster bands from them.I dont think Hyliner is any better than what you are using,and thier prices arent much different.I assume you use float rope for your warps.Rope in our country seems to be like every thing else,either regulations or cheap materials have affected the quality.If you wanted Hyliner I would contact Brooks Trap Mill in Thomaston,they are hyliner's biggest distributor.They offer discounts on 10 or more coils usually.Shipping would kill any savings over what you already have available I would think.brookstrapmill.com

 

[steveinak]

The Tytan is made in India,and one of the the marine suppliers in the area carries thier products.They make all kinds of rope,I was at the deere tractor store and they sell Tytan for bailing hay,and I have seen lobster bands from them.I dont think Hyliner is any better than what you are using,and thier prices arent much different.I assume you use float rope for your warps.Rope in our country seems to be like every thing else,either regulations or cheap materials have affected the quality.If you wanted Hyliner I would contact Brooks Trap Mill in Thomaston,they are hyliner's biggest distributor.They offer discounts on 10 or more coils usually.Shipping would kill any savings over what you already have available I would think.brookstrapmill.com

Ok indian rope is out i try to only sell US made products even though is sell polysteel. I buy my polysteel direct from the factory in nova scotia so shipping is always worked in. Most of my customers don't mind paying a bit more for good quality gear so i try to give them the best i can find at good prices, i'm lucky to be able to work out of my barn/shop so i don't have much overhead. All they have up here is mostly korean or chinese junk ropes its either that yellow poly or super hard lay junk and they sell it for more than what i charge for polysteel or esterpro. Polysteel has a warehouse in british columbia so sometimes i can get some rope from there and save a bit on shipping.

 

[Fouraces59]

Everson has always been a good product that many of the Lobster fleet in the Boston are use. 7/16 and 3/8 are the most popular. I know guys hauling 20-30 pot trawls of lobster gear out of 50-60 fathoms and they don't part lines.

It is made by Everson Cordage works in Everson,Washington

 

[googinhater]

Everson has gone to shit it frays all up in sand wish we could still fish pollysteel that stufff is great it will take a beating I got some supper soft one time best rope I seen can't find any more well not that we can fish it

 

[steveinak]

I think any sink rope will self destruct because the sand get into the lay and it just grinds itself apart. I'll stay with polysteel as long as i can. Nobody has mentioned Manline or is that junk also ??

 

[Strictly Commercial]

manline is nice to work with and splice, but I found that it doesn't hold up and is susceptible to sun damage when the gear is onshore. On deck it tends to tangle...polysteel is better in my opinion.

 

[steveinak]

We always bought black color rope, it didn't seem to burn in the sun. I'll stick with polysteel, just ordered a shitload last week.

 

[Strictly Commercial]

Looks like you got your work cut out for you, cap! Most of the gear I'm fishing now are single pots, so it's mostly just 1/4 inch poly with 1/4 inch sink in the middle. There's a lot of tide where I fish, so anything thicker usually pulls the buoys down on moon tides. Once in a while we pop one off, but when it's all said and done, I would probably lose more pots with heavier rope on those big tides.

 

[steveinak]

Those are 2 & 3 pot lines i make up to sell to the shrimpers add to that 100 fathoms of sink rope and you have a line for shrimping here. I fish down to 150 fathoms sometimes so i get quite the pile of rope on deck, 10 pots per trawl and a ball on each end.

 

[F/V First Team]

Do you put them all on the rail or zing one over as you're picking the next one up?

And how fast do you set them?

 

[steveinak]

Do you put them all on the rail or zing one over as you're picking the next one up?

And how fast do you set them?

I set them all on the rail then set them back, couldn't under run them in that deep water they'd all be on top of each other. I set back anywhere from a fast idle on up to cruise speed, we're only allowed to fish 50 pots so no real big hurry to get to the next trawl, shit i go through them pretty fast compared to the other guys they coil all the rope while they are hauling the gear and unhook/untie the traps from the mainline you know the rope won't go back out unless its coiled I just agree with them !!!

This was moving a couple of trawls


I stack 9 of them on the half assed tray and across the stern and leave one up by the hauler to kick off and start the trawl, i don't even haul in the buoyline just cleat it off and tow it to the next set, saves the time of setting it back out again.