Whos boat is this , looks SLOW !!!!!

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Raving Maine-iacs


This Summer’s Wild & Crazy Races



Lobsterboat racing’s been a big deal in Maine for more than a century. It used to entail little more than friendly but competitive sprints among fellow townsmen in sailing craft trying to beat each other back to the dock after a stint of rough-and-tumble lobstering. Then during the 1920s, various villages, towns, and cities along the coast of the Pine Tree State cranked up a more organized version of events, with races scheduled in various places on weekends throughout the summer. Today, the internal combustion engine is the star of the show, and although working lobstermen continue to take part in most of the races, boatbuilders, seafood merchants, diesel-shop owners, teachers, and other wild and crazy folk also toss their battered baseball caps into the ring.
Maine’s lobsterboat races somehow tend to be both fun and competitively edgy. As many as 65 high-horsepower maniacs may participate in a race, and many hundreds of spectators are usually on hand to watch. Town-sponsored lobster festivals often coincide with races, and rousing parties, large and small, have been known to occur as well.

This year’s schedule goes as follows:

June 18 Boothbay Harbor June 19 Rockland July 2 Jonesport/Moosa Bec Reach July 9 Searsport July 10 Stonington July 23 Friendship July 24 Harpswell August 13 Winter Harbor August 14 Pemaquid August 21 Portland

Downeast lobsterboat races are poised to break the 70-mph barrier.

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Travis Otis’ First Team roars toward the finish line, with Otis’ dad egging his son on from the couch.

At first Travis Otis, a rough-and-ready lobsterman and boatbuilder from Searsport, Maine, seems like a reasonable sort of guy. Engage him in a stint of friendly conversation, and he’ll quickly convince you that he enjoys a wholly conventional lifestyle, complete with a flourishing family business and a 36-foot Northern Bay lobsterboat that pulls enough traps during the season to guarantee him a comfortable living. He’ll maintain this facade for a while too—unless you get him talking about his favorite extracurricular activity: the series of ten weekend lobsterboat races that take place each summer in various harbor towns along the rocky coast of Maine. It’s only then that the deep and abiding depths of his insanity reveal themselves.
“Yes sir,†he proclaims, “First Team’s a real, functionin’ lobsterboat. I only race ‘er on weekends. Work ‘er hard during the week. Hit ‘er with soap an’ water on Friday night and go racin’. She does have quite a diesel in ‘er, though—a 513-cubic-inch, 410-hp Sisu from Finland. In-line-six, she is, turbocharged, intercooled, with 250-BAR mechanical injectors and two-valve heads, all encased in a big ol’ cast-iron tractor block.â€
Okay. So maybe 420 ponies doesn’t seem like a real big deal to you. Maybe, you even own a boat with lots more oomph in the basement, at least in the traditional, what-it-says-on-the-spec-sheet sense. But before you draw any conclusions about this Sisu’s firepower, ponder the following: Most lobsterboat racers, when talking about their vessels or powerplants, will occasionally look you right in the eye and lie without a twinge of remorse. And what’s more, lots of them will freely admit to this foible and, in some cases, actually revel in it.
Lie-worthy subjects are numerous, by the way. For diesel racers, the list includes horsepower, gear ratios, tach readings, prop pitch and diameter, injector size, and the use or non-use of two-speed transmissions. Gasoline-fired enthusiasts often toss in a few extras like the type of fuel (options include CAM II racing fuel as well as esoteric alcohol-water mixtures) and the size of carburetor jets. And racers of both stripes have been known to install dummy switches and gauges on their dashboards to thwart competitive espionage and modify their air-intake systems to accept duplicitous, totally-against-the-rules, push-button infusions of propane and/or nitrous oxide to boost performance.
Which is not to say that the atmosphere isn’t congenial during your average lobsterboat race. “There’s a spirit to them,†explains Otis, “It’s like NASCAR goes to a tractor pull during a big family reunion with lotsa spectators.†But the craziness that also goes along seems just a tad more extreme than you’ll find in other racing venues, as one of Otis’ recent racing experiences illustrates.
“Let’s just say we had her runnin’ hot that day,†he says. “You know, you want to put on a good show for the crowd, and we were rarin’ to race. I mean, I’d put her in gear and whoa! We were doin’ 15 miles an hour!â€
Dark developments were in the offing though. With a passel of big boats with highly competitive drivers jockeying for position at the starting line, several false starts ensued, and as the clock ticked away, First Team’s Sisu began to overheat. Was it the oversize injectors he’d installed that were causing the problem, Otis wondered, or one of his other proprietary adjustments?
The race began with the typical earth-shattering roar. First Team soon took the lead with her engine-temperature gauge pegged, the smell of frying engine paint cloying Otis’ nostrils and his dad yelling from the couch (First Team sports an ample residential-style couch temporarily secured to her decks during races to help passengers and crew deal with head-snapping acceleration), “More speed, man. More speed, more speed!â€
A few hundred yards short of the finish line a sick, unholy blast of orange smoke erupted from the Sisu as her pistons melted. Otis, standing virtually atop an engine that had just transformed itself into a giant hand grenade poised to explode, choked and gagged but kept on going. “Pistons one, two, and three actually liquefied and blew right out the exhaust pipes,†he recalls, “But hey, inertia carried us over the finish line, we won, and the crowd got one helluva show!â€
Although Otis is as courageous, committed, and theatrically gifted as any racer on the circuit, another driver is actually a tad better known. Galen Alley, a wild-man lobster buyer from Beals Island, presently holds a radar gun-measured speed record of 68.9 mph, making him the “Fastest Lobsterman Afloat,†a title that’s brought him a good deal of acclaim. Alley’s boat, the comparatively small, 30-foot Foolish Pleasure, is an exotic craft with a 638-cubic-inch, alcohol-injected, supercharged dragster engine that literally shares the wheelhouse with him. A comparative featherweight that reportedly tips the scales at just 2,000 pounds—engine and fuel included—she has a slippery flat bottom and a modest keel. “Before I modified that keel,†says Alley, “she was a bit of a handful. Sometimes she’d just decide to take off on me, lay over on her side or go off at a right angle. But I got her runnin’ good now. Fact is, I’m plannin’ to beat my own record this comin’ year.â€
Will the Maine Lobsterboat Racing Association’s radar gun officially solemnize Foolish Pleasure’s quest to break the 70-mph barrier this summer? Most likely, yes. But she may not be alone.
Otis says he’s thinking about replacing First Team’s Sisu with two bestial 1,800-hp gasoline-fired Packard V-12s. Given the mind-blowing power-to-length ratio that would result, there’s certainly a chance First Team could set her own totally insane record. Unless, of course, the mental-health authorities show up and toss a net over Otis first.
Maine Lobsterboat Racing
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She IS slow, but not as slow as a lot of other boats.

Caught fire during that particular race, little fun fact. Luckily the guy with the video camera sitting there on the couch didn't see and/or film that part.

Not quite sure where the author got that I have an accent, because I don't. Aside from that, the article is accurate :)
 

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Was thinkin of a Sisu 410 in a new build.

Not after reading this. What the heck, SISU 410 can't run @ WOT for a mile or two?
Can't figure why I'd want one ! :D

"A few hundred yards short of the finish line a sick, unholy blast of orange smoke erupted from the SISU as her pistons melted. Otis, standing virtually atop an engine that had just transformed itself into a giant hand grenade poised to explode, choked and gagged but kept on going. Pistons one, two, and three actually liquefied and blew right out the exhaust pipes, he recalls"
 

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There is quite a bit more to the story on that particular day that wasn't in the article BillD. I'd like to see anyone else's engine suffer that catastrophe and still run home on her own bottom four and a half hours. Roughly 60 miles for you land lubbers.

That was back in the days where we were doing 15 mph when it was put in gear, made docking kind of fun.

Fun times, fun times
 

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She IS slow, but not as slow as a lot of other boats.

Caught fire during that particular race, little fun fact. Luckily the guy with the video camera sitting there on the couch didn't see and/or film that part.

Not quite sure where the author got that I have an accent, because I don't. Aside from that, the article is accurate :)


Might i suggest Merlins over packards, the H variant was rated up to 4000hp, maybe he thought you were Canadian ;)
 

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I'd put these jewels up against any stock engine out there.

And I don't need to run 26 lbs of alcohol under pressure through them either to be satisfied with the amount of power being generated.

Fun fact: @ 27 lbs of pressurized alcohol they explode
 

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I'd put these jewels up against any stock engine out there.

And I don't need to run 26 lbs of alcohol under pressure through them either to be satisfied with the amount of power being generated.

Fun fact: @ 27 lbs of pressurized alcohol they explode


Our race motor makes 1575 on muscle. She also has 4 stages of nitrous on top (max Hp is classified ;)).
 

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I'd put these jewels up against any stock engine out there.

And I don't need to run 26 lbs of alcohol under pressure through them either to be satisfied with the amount of power being generated.

Fun fact: @ 27 lbs of pressurized alcohol they explode
4m-2500 is a nice engine, factory output is more along the 1500hp mark. Why not stay in the diesel class, go with tatra V12's
 

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I wouldn't mind running nitrous, too bad it's illegal for my kind of racing.

Doris over in Finland pumps out 5,000+ hp no nitrous needed. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on her fuel pump, injectors and turbocharger. I just don't want to have to build a giant 4 foot long air box and pack it with dry ice, I think it might freeze the water going through my intercooler...
 

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I wouldn't mind running nitrous, too bad it's illegal for my kind of racing.

Doris over in Finland pumps out 5,000+ hp no nitrous needed. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on her fuel pump, injectors and turbocharger. I just don't want to have to build a giant 4 foot long air box and pack it with dry ice, I think it might freeze the water going through my intercooler...


PM incomming
 

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The ones that are sitting here in the shop are towards the end of the war, different carb on top and a massive gear driven supercharger, some 28" in diameter. 1,800 ponies just laying dormant for the time being under the tarp.

At the start of production the power was more along the lines of 1,350 hp, then when the engineers started fiddling around with superchargers the majority of the engines produced were the more well known 1,500 hp versions.

Just a wonderment of engineering from days gone by that should be revisited and improved upon (if possible), power plants from today have a thing or two to learn.

And even the nay-sayers who claim that it is too fuel hungry to be practical at 50 gallons an hour WOT, a Caterpillar C-18 producing 1000 hp chugs 60+ gallons per hour, yet we just accept that without batting an eyelash.

Diesels are great, but Gasoline is a dying breed and I think one more hoorah might be in store.
 

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There is quite a bit more to the story on that particular day that wasn't in the article BillD. I'd like to see anyone else's engine suffer that catastrophe and still run home on her own bottom four and a half hours. Roughly 60 miles for you land lubbers.

That was back in the days where we were doing 15 mph when it was put in gear, made docking kind of fun.

Fun times, fun times

Just some fun poking Travis ! :D
Dam good thing you are a SISU dealer!
How often do you explode a motor after all the "tweaking" before a race.

I'm well aware of racing etc., cars NOT boats.
 

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I wouldn't mind running nitrous, too bad it's illegal for my kind of racing.

Doris over in Finland pumps out 5,000+ hp no nitrous needed. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on her fuel pump, injectors and turbocharger. I just don't want to have to build a giant 4 foot long air box and pack it with dry ice, I think it might freeze the water going through my intercooler...


anything in the rules about propane ?
 

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Our block is a 5.0 bore space. They just came out with a 5.3 bore space last year. One engine builder just released a 1005 cubic inch race engine making over 2000hp on muscle
 

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The ones that are sitting here in the shop are towards the end of the war, different carb on top and a massive gear driven supercharger, some 28" in diameter. 1,800 ponies just laying dormant for the time being under the tarp.

At the start of production the power was more along the lines of 1,350 hp, then when the engineers started fiddling around with superchargers the majority of the engines produced were the more well known 1,500 hp versions.

Just a wonderment of engineering from days gone by that should be revisited and improved upon (if possible), power plants from today have a thing or two to learn.

And even the nay-sayers who claim that it is too fuel hungry to be practical at 50 gallons an hour WOT, a Caterpillar C-18 producing 1000 hp chugs 60+ gallons per hour, yet we just accept that without batting an eyelash.

Diesels are great, but Gasoline is a dying breed and I think one more hoorah might be in store.

other then electronics, there has been no real significant improvement to the combustion engine in over 50 years. Lots of problems and innovations came out of the 1920-45 era
 

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Just some fun poking Travis ! :D
Dam good thing you are a SISU dealer!
How often do you explode a motor after all the "tweaking" before a race.

I'm well aware of racing etc., cars NOT boats.

Like I said, there was a lot to that particular race, was not due to "tweaking" before the race.

I know about the poking fun, I'm not upset - just putting my feelings out there. Aren't many engines that I can think of that would let half of their pistons liquify and run out the exhaust that would still keep on going like nothing happened, although slower.

We had the engine out on a Tuesday, put it back in Thursday (actually dropped it through the bottom of the boat - oops), launched Friday and won the race on Saturday. True story.

Don't trust Oak for your A-frame, always keep a sharp eye and ear out for it. When that beam comes crashing down on your shoulder when you're in the hell hole be glad that your head wasn't in the way because it hurts like the dickens.
 

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