Wtb h&h 35' / 38' / 40'

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Hello to all. Joined not to long ago and really enjoy the site.
Looking to buy an H & H only, 35, 38 or 40'. Anyone know of
anything worth looking at? Thanks for any help.
 

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There a 38 up in harpswell ME but it's pricey then there the 40' Big Blue which looks like a great boat & a great deal. That may be on THT. Sound like your looking for a skeg built rather than built down.
 

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Curious as to why h&h only? Good luck on your search.
 
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Do you underdstand what I said about built down or skeg built?
I'm not sure what built down means, but however, I've been on different types of downeast boats, IMO the WM and H&H boats have the best overall riding and performance, the WM is very pricey, so I think H&H fits me best, dollar for dollar.
 

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Knot Guilty,you should do a little research about hull design...you said your choices are H&H, Wesmac or MDI...all three are different designs..H&H skeg built....Wesmac hard chine....MDI built down design..good luck
 

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Are some of the H&H hulls somewhere in between or are they all hardcore skeg boats? I would assume skeg coming from a Beal design. And do Wesmacs count as downeasters when you consider what's under the water? I asked that before but nobody bit.
 

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Osmond Beal designed H&H are skeg built... Wesmac may look downeaster but under the water line is new generation hull design
 

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So I guess the question is- did Osmond Beal design all the H&H hulls or is there one that might be a hybrid of sorts? I've seen Wesmacs on the hill, to me they are downeasters only in a sense of style. I've not been riding on one, but from what I understand, they are great performers in a variety of conditions.
 

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Are some of the H&H hulls somewhere in between or are they all hardcore skeg boats? I would assume skeg coming from a Beal design. And do Wesmacs count as downeasters when you consider what's under the water? I asked that before but nobody bit.
H&H 34 & 36 are the same hull and are a partial built down according to Bruce. I guess they are kinda in between. Also his 38 & 40 are the same hull and skeg built, the 35 is it's own design & skeg built.

The new 37 Duffy is built down with a hard chine but on the bottom coming out of the turn the hull is convex. So it is really like a soft chine with a rail on it. Pretty ingeneous. I'm not sure if that is the case with the Wesmacs, I never examined one out of the water.

As someone else said you need to do allot of research on these hulls and oh ya, have allot of money!!!!!
 

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MDI45,

I see sutble deference's the riding characterics of each design, but I'm wondering how each performs while drifting? We are seeing more DE style boats in our commercial fisheries here in CA every year. We are looking at several as replacement dungeness crab boats as they have performed very well in that fishery. However, another large part of our fishing accurs "on the drift" and there is a reservation as to how snappy a skeg or built down vessel would be a 20-25 knots and a honest 3-5 foot chop. We see that kind of weather every afternoon from May-Sept in San Francisco. I'm not suggesting that a skeg built boat wont perform well, just wondering how it might perform. We see many smaller boat operators using drfit socks/sea anchors etc with good success to turn the boat either bow or transom forward depending of the boat. But that strategy on a 40 footer isn't very feasible as it requires a massive sea anchor.
 

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Cfood,i can tell you that i have owned both a Wayne Beal and MDI and the skeg built was much better on the drift...but running the mdi got it beat...you know what they say no boat is perfect
 

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Thanks. The 40ft RP's out here sit pretty good on the drift. Personally id rather leave earlier and mop them up when I get there.
 

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A friend of mine has one of the last 40's..i did some finish work on the boat...she is very flat aft..and is great on the drift
 

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Which bottom design is a Lowell 38 and 43?

What are your thoughts on the Big Blue for offshore fishing?
 
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